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ali
201532.  Fri Aug 17, 2007 5:24 pm Reply with quote

I don't think it is Burns. It's called 'The Ball 0' Kirriemuir' (ball as in social event) and appears to date from the 1880s. It has been extensively added to over the years.

Three versions of the song can be found here, here and here.

 
ali
206453.  Tue Sep 04, 2007 4:06 am Reply with quote

And here is a clean version!

 
gerontius grumpus
206813.  Tue Sep 04, 2007 6:04 pm Reply with quote

Fletchers make arrows and bowyers make sausages.

 
Bondee
207181.  Wed Sep 05, 2007 1:41 pm Reply with quote

gerontius grumpus wrote:
Fletchers make arrows and bowyers make sausages.


Fletchers spend five years at a time in HMP Slade, surely?
: )

 
mckeonj
207209.  Wed Sep 05, 2007 3:03 pm Reply with quote

gerontius grumpus wrote:
Fletchers make arrows and bowyers make sausages.

What do thatchers make?

 
gerontius grumpus
207255.  Wed Sep 05, 2007 5:08 pm Reply with quote

[quote="mckeonj"]
gerontius grumpus wrote:
Fletchers make arrows and bowyers make sausages.

What do thatchers make?[/quote


Evil politicians.

 
Archie
207346.  Thu Sep 06, 2007 3:27 am Reply with quote

[quote="gerontius grumpus"]
mckeonj wrote:
gerontius grumpus wrote:
Fletchers make arrows and bowyers make sausages.

What do thatchers make?[/quote


Evil politicians.


You could argue that Roberts' make politicians, and Thatchers make;

a) loud journalists
b) tosspot failed playboy, failed driver, failed entrepreneur, failed coup leader types.

 
Efros
249973.  Fri Dec 28, 2007 6:33 pm Reply with quote

mckeonj wrote:
gerontius grumpus wrote:
Fletchers make arrows and bowyers make sausages.

What do thatchers make?


Wonderful targets come the revolution


Modern bows are generally three piece efforts with some form of Magnesium-Aluminium alloy comprising the center section. The bows are usually fitted with stabilizers and so called pokers to aid the release and balance, to the point where the bow can look quite ridiculous.




The advent of compound bows with mechanical advantage means that the archer is no longer required to pull 40 - 50 lbs for every arrow but can with the correct setup get away with a lower hold weight.

 
Billybob
250004.  Fri Dec 28, 2007 9:14 pm Reply with quote

mckeonj wrote:
One of the extremely coarse songs I remember singing in good company years ago was one called "The Balls of Kirriemuir", which I understood to have been composed by Robert Burns.
It went something like this:
"Four and twenty virgins came doon fra' Inverness,
"And when the Ball was over there were four and twenty less,
"Singing 'Balls to your partner, backs agin the wall,
"If ye've niver bin fucked of a Sa'urday nicht,
"Ye've niver bin fucked at all!"
That's all I can remember, now.
I did not learn that at school, either.

Kirriemuir - birthplace of AC/DC's Bon Scott, who co-wrote & sang "Big Balls." I suppose it's mildly interesting.

 
yoda6519
663179.  Thu Jan 28, 2010 1:29 pm Reply with quote

Efros wrote:
mckeonj wrote:
gerontius grumpus wrote:
Fletchers make arrows and bowyers make sausages.

What do thatchers make?


Wonderful targets come the revolution




The advent of compound bows with mechanical advantage means that the archer is no longer required to pull 40 - 50 lbs for every arrow but can with the correct setup get away with a lower hold weight.


i have to differ m8, my compound bow is a 57lbs draw weight, true i don't need to hold it at that weight but i still need to draw it.

my mongolian bow is set at 38lbs (i think) which i draw and hold til loose.

 
Efros
663196.  Thu Jan 28, 2010 2:05 pm Reply with quote

What is the effective weight exerted on the release? i.e. what's your mechanical advantage?

 
yoda6519
664807.  Mon Feb 01, 2010 12:36 pm Reply with quote

Efros wrote:
What is the effective weight exerted on the release? i.e. what's your mechanical advantage?


don't know about that m8, i know the arrow leaves the bow at approx 264fps (there's prob an equation to work it out but i wouldn't have a clue lol)

the point was that i am still drawing 58lbs when i pull it back, all the cams are doing is enabling me to hold it at about 30-40 lbs when it hits the valley after i have fully drawn it allowing me to aim without holding 58lbs before the loose.

 
Efros
664891.  Mon Feb 01, 2010 3:19 pm Reply with quote

So about 2:1, my point, admittedly not very well made, was that with older style bows you would be drawing and holding 58lbs, which for a round of say 12 dozen arrows is pretty tiring.

 
yoda6519
665359.  Tue Feb 02, 2010 3:29 pm Reply with quote

ah, i see what you mean now, but the main point is with a traditianal bow ie longbow, mongolian or even a warbow you don't hold it. you draw and loose instinctively on your target.
through experience you get to know where to aim during the draw and the loose.

you wouldn't be holding the bow at full draw for more than a second at most.

as shown by kassai lajos here m8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOpOqgotJZc

 
Tas
665471.  Tue Feb 02, 2010 6:49 pm Reply with quote

Holding a traditional longbow at full draw for anything more than half to three quarters of a second (when loosing multiple shafts over time, as opposed to single shafts and then resting) is:

A: Knackering
B: Strains the back and shoulders, inducing shaking and
C: As a result of B, accuracy is impaired.

:-)

 

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