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Quizwizard
185982.  Thu Jun 28, 2007 8:26 am Reply with quote

Hi Guys,
Some years ago I heard of a case whereby a man constantly suffering from depression put a gun in his mouth and pulled the trigger. He did not die as expected and made a full recovery. From then on he never suffered from depression again. A reason given was that he had actually destroyed the part of the brain that was causing the illness.

Is this fact or even possible?

 
djgordy
185984.  Thu Jun 28, 2007 8:30 am Reply with quote

Perhaps he read Dorothy parker.

Razors pain you;
Rivers are damp;
Acids stain you;
And drugs cause cramp.
Guns aren’t lawful;
Nooses give;
Gas smells awful;
You might as well live.

 
Long Haired Hippy
186041.  Thu Jun 28, 2007 10:26 am Reply with quote

I should imagine it's possible. Though I'd find it more feasible if he hadn't put the gun in his mouth but had instead chosen a different trajectory. I would aslo assume a pretty low calibre weapon. Second to that if he was cured of his depression it might not be because of his unusual form of brain surgury.

The experience of surving such an ordeal may have put certain contributory factors to his depression in a different perspective.

from the world of fiction I give you a perfect example....

Arseface..




It would be hard to prove if it were. However much of our knowledge of what area of the brain is responsible for what originated by studying the effects of gunshot wounds to the head on the unfortunate victims.

As for whether it's a fact there's simply not enough information to try to find a reference.

 
barbados
186093.  Thu Jun 28, 2007 11:16 am Reply with quote

So this man's wife was just trying to help him through a bit of a low point then?

 
smiley_face
186369.  Fri Jun 29, 2007 4:48 am Reply with quote

There isn't really one set area of the brain that organises your emotions.

The limbic system controls emotion, motivation, and emotional association with memory. It consists of several regions, a list of which can be viewed here. [1]

There is also some evidence that the cerebellum (a region at the back of the brain, usually involved with coordination and balance) may play a part in a person's emotions. [2]

Regarding the original question about an man who shot himself, it is true that physical damage to the brain can hugely alter a person's personality and cognitive and emotional functioning. It could have been that the bullet hit one particular area of the brain and affected his brain's functioning so that he no longer suffered depression, but I don't know enough of the physiology of the brain to comment further.

However, there is an area of the brain known as Broca's area, which is involved in the production of speech, and people who suffer damage to this area can read and understand people talking perfectly, but are unable to speak or write. [3]

Also, according to this site, we have three brains. A bit of GI, I daresay, but I shall look into it further.

[1] http://www.psycheducation.org/emotion/brain%20pix.htm
[2] http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn7548
[3] Mammalian Physiology and Behaviour

 
Celebaelin
186384.  Fri Jun 29, 2007 5:07 am Reply with quote

Not to mention the frontal lobes and hence lobomies and ECT to treat mental illness. The techniques may have been abused but the basis, to relieve distress by destruction of brain tissue, was at least partially successful.

Quote:
In the early 20th century, a medical treatment for mental illness, first developed by Portuguese neurologist Egas Moniz, involved damaging the pathways connecting the frontal lobe to the limbic system. Frontal lobotomy (sometimes called frontal leucotomy) successfully reduced distress but at the cost of often blunting the subject's emotions, volition and personality. The indiscriminate use of this psychosurgical procedure, combined with the severe side effects and dangerous nature of the operation gained it a bad reputation and the frontal lobotomy has largely died out as a psychiatric treatment.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frontal_lobe
(My emphasis)

There are some famous cases of personality change due to traumatic brain damage including one of a mine worker in the US who went from a reliable family man to a dissolute gambler following damage to his frontal lobe in an accident. A metal spike was thrown out of a blasting hole by a premature explosion and went through his temple without killing him IIRC. I'm having difficulty finding a source for this on the web however.

 
swot
186469.  Fri Jun 29, 2007 6:52 am Reply with quote

smiley_face wrote:
There isn't really one set area of the brain that organises your emotions.

The limbic system controls emotion, motivation, and emotional association with memory. It consists of several regions, a list of which can be viewed here. [1]

There is also some evidence that the cerebellum (a region at the back of the brain, usually involved with coordination and balance) may play a part in a person's emotions. [2]

Regarding the original question about an man who shot himself, it is true that physical damage to the brain can hugely alter a person's personality and cognitive and emotional functioning. It could have been that the bullet hit one particular area of the brain and affected his brain's functioning so that he no longer suffered depression, but I don't know enough of the physiology of the brain to comment further.

However, there is an area of the brain known as Broca's area, which is involved in the production of speech, and people who suffer damage to this area can read and understand people talking perfectly, but are unable to speak or write. [3]

Also, according to this site, we have three brains. A bit of GI, I daresay, but I shall look into it further.

[1] http://www.psycheducation.org/emotion/brain%20pix.htm
[2] http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn7548
[3] Mammalian Physiology and Behaviour


Would that be a decent explaination of what was happening on House last night?

 
Efros
186848.  Sat Jun 30, 2007 11:42 am Reply with quote

AS my father was fond of saying "9 mil pill cures all ill, it just has to be taken cranially".

 

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