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251294.  Wed Jan 02, 2008 6:25 am Reply with quote

I'm not using the word for posterity sake but i just wondered does the above word (omit the stars) actually stand for:

Fornication uteristation carnal knowledge

as my english teacher told me during one of my lessons at GCSE
or should she deserve a QI claxon?

251306.  Wed Jan 02, 2008 6:54 am Reply with quote

She deserves the klaxon, as far as my looking into it goes it came from a Germanic origin. Please correct me if I'm wrong. But it's definitely not "Fornication uteristation carnal knowledge" or any of the other acronyms that have been going around.

251310.  Wed Jan 02, 2008 6:59 am Reply with quote

Quite right iano2000.

There are several acronymic etymologies around for the word "fuck", and none of them is correct - acronymic etymologies rarely are.

The real etymology of the word is the subject of some conjecture, but the thread starting at post 177721 will give an idea.

251317.  Wed Jan 02, 2008 7:11 am Reply with quote

I was always told that it stood for

Fornucation Under Consent of the King

that you were supposed to get permission before you were allowed do anything and that a notice would need to be put on a door to prove you had permission......

Or have I just done that general ignorance thing?

251325.  Wed Jan 02, 2008 7:27 am Reply with quote

Afraid so. The link above should bring enlightenment.

The Doctor
251398.  Wed Jan 02, 2008 9:15 am Reply with quote

on a sidebar, the dutch word for movie is 'film' and in the tv guide they are listed with an F followed by however many stars the critics felt the movie deserved. There was a lot of F*** on TV last christmas! :-0

251400.  Wed Jan 02, 2008 9:22 am Reply with quote

Strangely, the English word for 'movie' is also 'film'.


251401.  Wed Jan 02, 2008 9:22 am Reply with quote

Thatís lovely, Doctor! I imagine Dutch TV guides are much sought after as souvenirs by anglophones.

(Mind you, I'm old enough to remember when the British word for movie was film ... )

On edit: you beat me to it, samivel!

251403.  Wed Jan 02, 2008 9:24 am Reply with quote

Of course, these days the British word is "meevie," but that's another gripe altogether ...

251425.  Wed Jan 02, 2008 10:30 am Reply with quote

There is an interesting movie entitled F*K which blows away a lot of the myths surrounding this most adaptable of words.

251643.  Thu Jan 03, 2008 2:42 am Reply with quote

What did this teacher propose that "uteristation" meant, I wonder.

251683.  Thu Jan 03, 2008 5:46 am Reply with quote

It might be a useful service to humanity to begin here a CRAP ...

Catalogue of Ridiculous Anagrams (Phoney),

which would have two aims:

1. To record, and explode (with referenced sources, of course), as many false anagrammatic etymologies as possible (such as Fuck, Posh, etc), and;
2. To search for a live specimen. Is there, somewhere in the world, a genuine anagrammatic origin of a common slang term?

251699.  Thu Jan 03, 2008 6:37 am Reply with quote

Snafu & AWOL, maybe?

251721.  Thu Jan 03, 2008 7:04 am Reply with quote

MILF is one that comes to mind, not sure if this would be true but TV might be another

251722.  Thu Jan 03, 2008 7:05 am Reply with quote

Though you do mean acronyms rather than anagrams...

I think Flash's examples are correct, and there may be more in the Fugazi thread, but you're right in that such things are rare. One reasonably common one is TEFL - pronounced 'teffle' - which means Teaching English as a Foreign Language.

Computing is one field where people seem unable to resist acronyms - GUI, GIF, WYSIWYG, RISC, WIMP, BASIC, BIOS etc. (Though initialisms, where you pronounce the letters out rather than as a word, are even more common.) Whether any of these amount to slang is another question of course.


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