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721054.  Sat Jun 19, 2010 8:53 am Reply with quote

MatC wrote:
Is that why loons proverbially write to newspapers in green ink - because they are all “Admiral (Retd), Crowborough, Sussex”?

Auditors (at least in the old days, 20-odd years ago) used green ink. Which would fit with the proverbial loon writing to newspapers.

721326.  Sun Jun 20, 2010 7:28 am Reply with quote

Is not the stereotypical loon writer to newspapers "Disgusted of Tunbridge Wells"?

Mind you, Tunbridge Wells and Crowborough are but seven miles apart ...

780848.  Fri Jan 28, 2011 3:55 am Reply with quote

as a rule of thumb and as a general rule, a boat can fit onto a ship, but a ship cannot fit onto a boat!

I believe: "A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step." Katy Jhonson

827619.  Tue Jun 28, 2011 11:01 pm Reply with quote

Ah, would that be a green thumb that boat size is a rule of? Hence it would be written in purple ink because Jackie wanted it to be read.

827649.  Wed Jun 29, 2011 5:10 am Reply with quote

With regard to the difference between a ship and a boat, I tried to trace the source of the often quoted definition of "a ship can carry a boat but a boat cannot carry a ship". At present I have tracked down an answer written on September 30th 1988 by Mr Cecil Adams, styled the World's Smartest Man. The letter which I include as a link also gives a more technical answer.

He also explains what the difference is between a mountain and a hill for good measure.

865754.  Sun Nov 20, 2011 9:51 am Reply with quote

well said zebra which make sense for me ! No i understood ! thanks for pretty decent example !

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865758.  Sun Nov 20, 2011 10:22 am Reply with quote

Why, to digress from the colour prejudice that seems to have generated from those not interested in ships and boats, do amphibious aircraft get the name "Flying Boat"?

There is no way the intention of said transport is to investigate the nethers of the sea's surface.


865776.  Sun Nov 20, 2011 10:57 am Reply with quote

I'd always assumed that it was simply because that type of airplane can float on water, which makes it a bit like a boat. But if there's a better answer, I'm sure someone will provide it.

Now, another question. Are "flying boat" and "seaplane" two names for the same thing, or is there a subtle difference? I've traveled in what I understood to be a seaplane a couple of times - in some parts of the Canadian wilderness, there are no roads and no proper airstrips, so landing on a lake is the way to go. Can't say I was a huge fan of the experience - once one has gotten used to landing on a hard surface, landing on water feels a bit odd.

865838.  Sun Nov 20, 2011 4:19 pm Reply with quote

Sorry Suze, Mea culpa. I didn't stress that I was querying the response that decided 'ships went on the water' where, in naval tradition, 'boats went under the water'.

You have also brought in another anomoly. If the aircraft is used in the middle of a large land mass and lands on lakes; 'Sea' plane is a misnomer.

Pedantically yours


Spud McLaren
865849.  Sun Nov 20, 2011 4:57 pm Reply with quote

suze wrote:
Now, another question. Are "flying boat" and "seaplane" two names for the same thing, or is there a subtle difference?
I had hitherto understood that a flying boat had a hull that was (or was part of) the fuselage, a floatplane was an aeroplane with floats attached in place of the wheels, and a seaplane was a blanket term for both. But it's a long time since I was at all concerned about such things, so I may be wrong.

Peregrine Arkwright
968561.  Fri Feb 01, 2013 9:55 am Reply with quote


what's the difference between a ship and a boat?

The Navy, as pointed out, have their own convention but for everyone else is it not also a matter also of type of voyage? Ships cross oceans while boats, generally, keep close to shore.
I realise that hardy souls can set off in a boat and sail it round the world but that is considered exceptional and newsworthy, the exception that proves the norm.

968567.  Fri Feb 01, 2013 10:05 am Reply with quote

Why is the Navy plural?

968698.  Fri Feb 01, 2013 9:06 pm Reply with quote

Because it has a lot of boats?

968707.  Sat Feb 02, 2013 3:48 am Reply with quote

Na. The country has lots of inhabitants. ???

968780.  Sat Feb 02, 2013 12:26 pm Reply with quote

What about cruise ships that only travel rivers or the Med, they don't travel the oceans and are called ships.


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