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MatC
153069.  Fri Mar 02, 2007 10:44 am Reply with quote

Kyrgyzstan has announced plans to legalise polygamy, in the hope that this might prevent some young men from emigrating; emigration is a huge problem for the country. The justice minister explained that polygamy had only been banned during Soviet times, and that it was time to overturn such communist oppression and revive the true customs of the land. Hoorah for freedom!

S: Daily Telegraph, 1 March 07

 
Vitali
154101.  Tue Mar 06, 2007 7:25 am Reply with quote

This rather concerns "immigration" than "emigration". What European nation has the highest number of immigrant workers?
The answer is Luxembourg, where one third of the work force are Portuguese and "gustarbeiters" from neighbouring countries. Incidentally, Luxembourg is one of the world's most prosperous nations. What can I say? "Bloody foreigners!"

 
Flash
154102.  Tue Mar 06, 2007 7:27 am Reply with quote

I do wonder: why should polygamy be illegal?

 
MatC
154129.  Tue Mar 06, 2007 7:45 am Reply with quote

Good question: I wonder what the excuse was for making it illegal in the USA? The real reason, presumably, was religious persecution; but would the excuse be that it oppresses women?

 
Vitali
155076.  Thu Mar 08, 2007 1:26 pm Reply with quote

It is probably just good old American puritanism. Forget about polygamy: in New Mexico it is still illegal for two people to cohabit for over a month (!) without being married!

 
Flash
155085.  Thu Mar 08, 2007 1:59 pm Reply with quote

Would that include flat shares and the like? And is it actually enforced?

 
Vitali
155578.  Sun Mar 11, 2007 6:14 am Reply with quote

Good questions. I think it remains one of those "laws" that exist on paper only. Like the one allowing "birching" of pupils at school on the Isle of Man...

 
Vitali
155579.  Sun Mar 11, 2007 6:20 am Reply with quote

Just wondering: what has polygamy to do with "emigration"? There must be a connection surely?...

 
Flash
155582.  Sun Mar 11, 2007 6:55 am Reply with quote

Nothing, really - we just got side-tracked.

 
Jenny
155729.  Sun Mar 11, 2007 7:52 pm Reply with quote

There is a connection of sorts between polygamy and emigration, in that the early Mormons emigrated to Utah from Illinois because the rest of the US reviled their practice of plural marriage.

 
Vitali
157748.  Tue Mar 20, 2007 4:51 am Reply with quote

Swiss normally do not emigrate. The only place in the world with a sizable number of Swiss migrants (over a thousand) is Tasmania. There's even a Swiss village there. Located between Hobart and Launceston, it is called Grundenwald and was built by a Dutch self-made millionaire Rolf Voss. It has chalets, a Lutheran church chocolate shops and a rosti-serving restaurant.

Melbourne, Australia is the third-largest Greek city in the world (after Athens and Saloniki), with over 300,000 Greek people living in it.

own research

 
suze
157805.  Tue Mar 20, 2007 7:22 am Reply with quote

A similar claim which is often made concerns Poles in Chicago. The 2005 American Community Survey reveals 963,875 people in what we may loosely call "Greater Chicago" who self identified as being of Polish ancestry.

http://tinyurl.com/yr8uoa

That would make it the second most Polish city in the world after Warsaw (whose inhabitants are something like 97% Polish, with Germans, Ukrainians and Vietnamese making up most of the balance).

But even in Chicago, there are more Germans and Irish than there are Poles - I'd imagine there are a number of cities in the USA (and possibly in the UK as well?) which have more Irish people than does Dublin.

As Vitali will know, there are more Ukrainians in Canada than in any country apart from Ukraine and Russia.

 
eggshaped
157842.  Tue Mar 20, 2007 8:30 am Reply with quote

Quote:
The only place in the world with a sizable number of Swiss migrants (over a thousand) is Tasmania.


According to this , from the Swiss Ambassador, there are over 1500 members of the Swiss community in Singapore. Not that this detracts from the interestingness of a fully-fledged swiss village in Tasmania of course.

 

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