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Frederick The Monk
157175.  Fri Mar 16, 2007 12:25 pm Reply with quote

Marvelous - I've just been reading about all this postmillenialism/ premillenialism/ preterist/ pre-tribulation/ post-rapture business and it's great fun, if a little confusing. I'm also still trying to work out whether the seven bowls of wrath have been poured yet and if they come with bread rolls.

I'd better go and check that my new TV is 'rapture ready' too.

157322.  Sat Mar 17, 2007 12:27 pm Reply with quote

Here are some more endings that struck me as interesting:


In September, 1978, Janet Parker, an English medical photographer, was exposed to smallpox as the result of a laboratory accident. She subsequently died. On May 8, 1980, the World health Organization declared smallpox eradicated. Some samples remain in laboratories in Atlanta and Moscow. When scientists destroy the samples the smallpox virus will become the first life form intentionally eliminated from the earth.


The last execution in the Tower of London took place on Thursday, August 14, 1941, when Josef Jakobs, a German spy, was shot by an eight-man firing squad. Because he had suffered a broken ankle when he had parachuted into England on the night of January 31, 1941, he could not stand before the firing squad and he was, instead, seated in an old Windsor chair and tied up. Five of the eight shots pierced his heart.


On August 14, 1936, Rainey Bethea was hanged in Owensboro, Kentucky, before a crowd of 20,000. The public outrage that followed resulted in the complete abolition of public executions in the United States.


The last public execution by guillotine was on June 17, 1939. Eugen Weidman was executed before a large crowd in Versailles, France.

The last nonpublic use of the guillotine in France, at Baumetes Prison, in Marsailles, was the execution of convicted murderer Hamida Djandoubi, a Tunisian immigrant, on September 10, 1977. France abolished capital punishment on September 9, 1981.


Phoebe Harrius was convicted of coining false money, a crime of high treason at that time, and was executed by being burned at the stake in front of Newgate Prison in England, in 1786.


Adrian II (867-872) was the last married Catholic pope. He was actually married before he became pope, but refused to adopt celibacy or give up his wife when he ascended the papal throne. It was not until the First Lateran Council in 1123 that clerical marriage was clearly outlawed, and even after that priests, bishops and cardinals continued to skirt the rule by taking mistresses.,,9171,899038-1,00.html


The Beatles last concert was at Candlestick Park, San Francisco, on August 29, 1966. The last song they played was "Long Tall Sally."

The Beatles recorded their last song together, "I Me Mine," in 1970. (This one was a real surprise to me - I would have thought it was much later than 1966)


Cricket - last in Paris in 1900.
Croquet - last in Paris in 1900.
Golf: men - last in St. Louis in 1904.
Golf: women - last in Paris in 1900.
Lacrosse - last in London in 1908.
Polo - last in Paris in 1900.
Rugby - last in Paris in 1924.
Tug of War - last in Antwerp in 1920.


The 1912 Olympics was the last Olympics that gave out gold medals that were made entirely out of gold.


The fear of being last

157383.  Sat Mar 17, 2007 7:41 pm Reply with quote

Good stuff - though polo was definitely played in the 1936 Berlin Olympics.

157488.  Sun Mar 18, 2007 3:58 pm Reply with quote

Further to the Chinese strippers, I've come across something that you public school johnnies might know but was new to me. When an ancient Roman was dying, the oldest surviving male of the family leaned in close to the dying person and attempted to inhale the dying breath (thatís just Ö not sanitary). The rites lasted several days and often featured hired mourners and professional dancers.

157496.  Sun Mar 18, 2007 5:12 pm Reply with quote

I like the dying breath thing a lot, epsecially as it links to Edison's last breath:

157497.  Sun Mar 18, 2007 5:22 pm Reply with quote

Polo was indeed played in the 1936 Olympics - Argentina beat Britain 11-0 in the final and two of the Argentinian team appear to have been of British or Irish descent (Luis Duggan and Roberto Cavanagh).

Britain are the "defending" Olympic cricket and tug of war champions, while Canada are the lacrosse champions and a Canadian won the 1904 men's golf event. The USA, rather surprisingly, won rugby the last time it was played. It seems that there was crowd trouble during the final against France, and the American team needed police protection on leaving the field.

Source: Wallechinsky, D Complete Book of the Olympics 1984 Penguin Books, Harmondsworth.

157500.  Sun Mar 18, 2007 5:33 pm Reply with quote

I've just done a DVD question that might be more useful to you here, though I'll post it on that forum as well. It has a couple of links I rather like.

Q. What can your loved ones do after your death to give you a chance of coming back as a Beetle?

1) Join a Hindu sect.
2) Have a Swedish ecological funeral
3) Feed you to the worms
4) Turn you into a diamond.

A. 2) A Swedish company called Promessa will freeze your corpse down to Ė18C, then lower you in your coffin into a vat of liquid nitrogen. You will become very brittle, so that when they vibrate you and your coffin, all will collapse into dust. Mercury and other metals are then extracted using an induced magnetic field, and sent to be recycled Ė so you might end up as part of a Volkswagen Beetle. This leaves around 25-30kg of powder, which is put into a coffin made of maize starch or potato starch. The starch coffin is buried shallowly, and will turn into compost in 6-12 months.

If you chose 4), you could certainly do that Ė a company called Lifegem will take your remains after cremation (or a lock of your hair if you prefer) and extract the carbon from it. They will heat this to very high temperatures under conditions that convert it to graphite, which they place in a machine that subjects it to enough heat and pressure to convert it into a diamond, which they will cut and polish for you. It wonít allow you to come back as a beetle, or a Beetle, but you might make a rather nice ring.

Frederick The Monk
157517.  Mon Mar 19, 2007 2:51 am Reply with quote

So there's no chance of coming back as a beetle if I join a Hindu Sect? Damn! What a waste of money that was.

157595.  Mon Mar 19, 2007 10:26 am Reply with quote

suze wrote:
Britain are the "defending" Olympic cricket and tug of war champions, while Canada are the lacrosse champions and a Canadian won the 1904 men's golf event. The USA, rather surprisingly, won rugby the last time it was played.

Possible question about the longest reigning olympic champion? (forfeits for Steve Redgrave)

Just to contribute to the "Endings" theme, I recently stayed with some friends who live near Freiburg in Southern Germany. Their brand of toilet roll was named "Happy End".

Sorry, that's my puerile sense of humour coming out again :)

157603.  Mon Mar 19, 2007 10:52 am Reply with quote

Fred, you might come back as a lower case beetle if you live a sufficiently degraded and impure life, but not much chance as an upper case Beetle.

157617.  Mon Mar 19, 2007 12:07 pm Reply with quote

We did discuss Olympic cricket for Series C, but I canít remember if it was ever used. The posts no longer seem to exist.

See also Olympic poetry at
post 145922.

157844.  Tue Mar 20, 2007 8:31 am Reply with quote


157851.  Tue Mar 20, 2007 8:45 am Reply with quote

The first machine-gun (or something like it) was patented in 1718 by a London lawyer, James Puckle. He was unable to attract investors, and the gun never went into mass production.

The really remarkable thing about the Puckle gun was that it was designed to fire ordinary, round bullets when used against decent Christian opponents - and square bullets when used against heathen Turks. Square bullets were supposedly more painful.

Loads of sources for this - but none of an authoritative nature. Does anyone know if itís true?

On the same theme, a couple of centuries later: it is said that the Magnum .357 round was designed in the belief that the US was about to face an uprising of black men fuelled by cocaine, who could not be stopped by ordinary bullets. Again, my googling skills have failed me; anyone familiar with this story?

157879.  Tue Mar 20, 2007 9:52 am Reply with quote

Trouble is that we don't know in advance what order they're going to be broadcast in.

157881.  Tue Mar 20, 2007 9:54 am Reply with quote



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