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15967.  Wed Mar 09, 2005 8:00 am Reply with quote

Interesting goat-based curse on the Chicago Cubs not managing to make it into the Baseball World Series since 1945:
Fans laughed when a Chicago tavern-keeper, Sam Sianis -- angered over his ejection from a '45 Series game [for bringing in his pet goat] -- pronounced in his broken English: "Never again will World Series be played in Wrigley Field." The laughter has died, as almost six decades have passed without the Cubs adding that elusive 17th pennant.

16137.  Tue Mar 15, 2005 10:54 am Reply with quote

Frome Town AFC had (not sure if it was a curse or just negative, like, vibes, dude) removed from their ground by a white witch in (I think; I could check if wanted) 2003 or 4. This season, they made the quarter finals of the FA Vase (is there also an FA Pot Pourri Pot?) - their biggest game since circa 1959.

16194.  Thu Mar 17, 2005 7:49 am Reply with quote

When Southampton built their new stadium, it was said that it was on an old pagan burial ground, and some bodies had to be exhumed before building could begin.

Also, some of the builders were Portsmouth fans and buried various items of Portsmouth memorabelia in the foundations in order to curse the club.

Whatever the reason, there were many people convinced that the ground was cursed when the Saints failed to win any of their first 5 games, and a white witch was brought in to exorcise any daemons.

Southampton duely won the next game against Charlton:

Southampton were 1-0 up, the fans anxiously waiting for referee Dermot Gallagher's full-time whistle. Suddenly the ball broke on the edge of the box to Charlton defender, Steve Brown who, with the sweetest of volleys, had goalkeeper Paul Jones wrong-footed and a cruel equaliser seemed inevitable.

Yet amazingly the ball struck the foot of Jones' right-hand post. It kicked off the stanchion at an amazing angle, veered across the face of the goal and behind the sprawled body of Jones to completely bamboozle the Charlton forwards as it swerved away to safety.

Talk about the St Mary's curse, Pagan burial grounds, and evil spirits, but there was something pretty spooky about that one moment.

"When it came off the post you start believing in religion again," reflected manager Gordon Strachan,

Although Saints fans had their own theories:

The tabloids blamed a "curse" on St Mary's, but that was rubbish. There were two reasons why we were losing games at home... 1) We were playing good teams. 2) We were playing crap.

16202.  Thu Mar 17, 2005 9:53 am Reply with quote

2) We were playing crap.
Ah, they clearly need some psychic massage and/or aural re-alignment then.

17046.  Fri Apr 01, 2005 8:59 am Reply with quote

I’m always sceptical of stories like these on April 1st, but the stats they quote are definitely correct, so I’ve no reason to think this isn’t true:

From Reuters – in full:

Fans of Romania's Arges Pitesti have staged a cat's funeral and burned a rooster on the pitch in a bid for good luck before Friday's match against Farul Constanta.

"Seven Arges Pitesti fans buried a dead cat behind a stadium stand and burned a rooster just in the middle of the field after they were sure that the arena was cursed," Pro Sport daily reported.

Arges Pitesti, with 19 points from 17 matches, lie 12th in the 16-team table. Farul Constanta are fourth with 30 points. The bottom three teams will be relegated at the end of the season.

The newspaper also said fans had tied red string to the goalposts but that their efforts had to be followed by players' gestures in order to attract good luck.

"We'll ask our players to wear their underwear inside out for the match against Farul Constanta," one fan said.

Other superstitions common in Romanian soccer include players putting basil in their boots the night before matches and the national team's bus never reverses when players are on board.

A female photographer was removed from a plane taking the national team to a match last year because it was thought a woman aboard a plane or in a bus would be unlucky.

17052.  Fri Apr 01, 2005 10:21 am Reply with quote

Fabulous. Good link to cats there, too.

17252.  Thu Apr 07, 2005 3:35 am Reply with quote

May your every wish be granted.
- - - Ancient Chinese Curse

May your left ear wither and fall into your right pocket.
- - - Arab Curse

May those that love us, love us;
and those that don't love us,
May God turn their hearts;
and if He doesn't turn their hearts,
may He turn their ankles
so we'll know them by their limping.
- - - Old Irish Toast

May you wander over the face of the earth forever, never sleep twice in the same bed, never drink water twice from the same well, and never cross the same river twice in a year.
- - - Traditional Gypsy Curse

May the grass grow at your door and the fox build his nest on your hearthstone.
May the light fade from your eyes, so you never see what you love.
May your own blood rise against you, and the sweetest drink you take be the bitterest cup of sorrow.
May you die without benefit of clergy;
May there be none to shed a tear at your grave, and may the hearthstone of hell be your best bed forever.
- - - Traditional Wexford Curse

17258.  Thu Apr 07, 2005 5:32 am Reply with quote


(Opening line, The Curse of Frankenstein, The Goon Show, Series 8, Episode 18)

17944.  Wed Apr 20, 2005 5:15 am Reply with quote

Today’s Guardian has an article on the so-called Iceman Curse, [scary voice] mysterious deaths have come to a number of people who were involved in the discovery and transportation of Otzi, the dead Icemen famously found in the alps in the 90s. [/scary voice].

Unfortunately the story has not appeared on the net yet, and I can’t paraphrase cos I’ve left the paper in my car, but it has many echoes of the Tutankhamen nonsense, as posted above.

Story to follow.

18811.  Mon May 02, 2005 4:03 pm Reply with quote


18929.  Tue May 03, 2005 10:14 am Reply with quote

Garrick’s post reminds me that I haven’t yet posted the iceman curse link:

19830.  Wed May 11, 2005 9:46 am Reply with quote

In The Independent 5 May 2005, Jo Brand was asked “Does Hastings get a bad press?” She replied: “Well, it gets a bad press from me. I heard a myth that Aleister Crowley spent his last days in a bedsit in Hastings and cursed it, but that turned out to be Eastbourne.”

20148.  Sat May 14, 2005 7:39 am Reply with quote

A few more details re the Carlisle story which began this thread:

Fortean Times 197 (p.24) reports a “Cursing Stone” commissioned by councillors in Carlisle as part of the city’s millennium celebrations. It’s a 14 ton granite boulder, which cost £10,000, inscribed with 383 words of a 16th century, 1069-word curse, known as the Mother of all Curses. According to a LibDem councillor - with the inescapably Liberal name of Tim Tootle - since the curse was installed, the city has suffered disasters “of Biblical proportions,” including the foot and mouth plague, the worst floods since 1882, a serious fire, massive job losses, and the relegation of Carlisle United FC.

In March, the council debated a resolution to have the cursed stone placed outside ye boundaries of ye city, but the motion only got two votes: one from Cllr Tootle, and one from another of his LibDem colleagues (whose name isn't given; probably because it was just so funny they didn't dare print it).

117161.  Thu Nov 16, 2006 9:59 am Reply with quote

[quote="garrick92"][quote]In classical music the curse of the ninth is a fear of the 9th Symphony among composers. The origin of the curse stems from the surprising number of major composers who died after completing nine symphonies, or even in the course of writing their ninth.

The music of Beethoven, Schubert, Dvořák and Vaughan Williams fall in the former category; Bruckner in the latter.

The curse has affected a number of noted composers. Gustav Mahler
(Austrian composer and conductor (1860-1911)) was so afraid of it that he did not call his ninth symphonic work a symphony, rather labeling it Das Lied von der Erde. He finished this work unscathed, only to die while working on his tenth.


This is one of those things that people know about Mahler, but it puzzles me. The story would be fine if Das Lied von der Erde were actually a symphony, but it isn't. OK, maybe he avoided writing his 9th Symphony and wrote a song cycle instead, but to say he wrote a symphony and superstitiously didn't call it a symphony is just wrong. (The Ninth is sublime by the way, as are the sections of the Tenth he managed to complete).

863685.  Fri Nov 11, 2011 8:54 am Reply with quote

It is commonly believed that just as Arnold Schoenberg was very superstitious about the number 13 Mahler feared "9," at least for numbering his symphonies. Schoenberg's fear of 13 manifested itself in at least two interesting ways: For his opera, Moses und Aron, he deliberately wrote the name Aaron as "Aron," so that the opera's title would not have thirteen letters. Also, in numbering the measures of his compositions, he used 12, 12a, 14, to avoid the number 13! Schoenberg also feared number 9. In a memorial speech on October 12, 1912, he declared: "It seems that the Ninth is a limit. He who wants to go beyond it must pass away. It seems as if that something might be imparted to us in the Tenth, which we ought not yet to know, for which we are not yet ready. Those who have written a Ninth have stood too near to the hereafter. Perhaps the riddle of the world would be solved if one of those who knew them were to write the Tenth, and that is probably not to take place."


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