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152609.  Thu Mar 01, 2007 9:03 am Reply with quote

Found this from Mat (with a follow up from Egg) while going through the DVD thread. Thought it would be better in a show.

Q: What is rough music?

. A form of community punishment widely practised in this country, well into the 20th century, against men who had offended against the community - perhaps by wife-beating, or, paradoxically, by allowing themselves to be henpecked. The offender’s neighbours would gather outside his home in the middle of the night, call out his name and his crime, and proceed to make “rough music” with pots, pans, lids, buckets and so on, until the noise - or more likely the humiliation - ran him out of town. Known as “riding the stang” in northern England and Scotland.

“Rough Music is in the Book of Days on October 28th and is described as a form of community punishment practiced all over England. If a man were seen to be (say) beating his wife, or ‘allowing himself to be hen-pecked’ it says here, he could expect to receive a concert of Rough Music. Basically if they thought you had been naughty (it doesn’t say how or if they proved this) all the men, women and children of the village would go round to your house in the middle of the night, call out your name and proceed to bang pots, pans, tin lids and buckets or whatever came to hand, to bring your crimes to attention and drive you out. When my family moved to North Yorkshire at the beginning of the seventies there was a case of a man being driven from our area by this method. However, we’ve tried to make the album a bit nicer than that." -

“Arguably the community-ordered ASBO of its day, "rough music," as the CD liner notes detail, is an old-school English charivari - a communally administered punishment of prolonged and enthusiastically discordant music played on cow horns, frying pans, fire shovels, tongs and possibly even the odd musical instrument, outside the home of the local wife-beater or love rat.” -

Loads more about this at, including:

“In the northern counties, this custom, as before mentioned, is called 'riding the stang,' because there, in addition to rough music, it is the practice to carry the herald. astride on a stag the north country word for pole or in a chair fastened on two poles, to make him more conspicuous. He is, too, always provided with a large frying pan and key or hammer, and, after beating them together very vigorously, makes his proclamation in rhyme, using the following words, varied only to suit the nature of the offence:
‘Ran, tan, tan; ran, tan, tan,
To the sound of this pan
This is to give notice that Tom Trotter
Has beaten his good woman!
For what, and for why?
'Cause she ate when she was hungry,
And drank when she was dry.
Ran, tan, ran, tan, tan;
Hurrah hurrah! for this good woman!
He beat her, he beat her, he beat her indeed,
For spending a penny when she had need.
He beat her black, he beat her blue;
When Old Nick gets him, he'll give him his due;
Ran, tan, tan; ran, tan, tan;
We'll send him there in this old frying-pan;
Hurrah hurrah! for his good woman.'
The 'ran tan' chorus is shouted by the whole crowd, and repeated after every line. The practice is varied in different places by the addition of an effigy of the culprit riding on an ass, with his face towards the tail, and by other freaks of local humour, suggested perhaps by some peculiarity of the occasion.”

Question: Alexander Shulgin is a chemist known for his creation of hallucinogenic chemicals, what is his choice of music when testing these chemicals on himself?

a) Bach and Prokofiev

Yes, somewhat predictably the 80 year old chemist prefers to listen to classical music as he tests out his concoctions, although he and his wife sometimes branch-out to African Drums or other new-age music.

Alexander "Sasha" Shulgin, Ph.D., is a pharmacologist and chemist known for his creation of new psychoactive chemicals. Shulgin has synthesized and bioassayed (self-tested) hundreds of psychoactive chemicals and continues his work well into his 80th year.


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