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Molly Cule
160269.  Tue Mar 27, 2007 5:03 am Reply with quote

Which famous person do you think was the first to write about buying porn in England? need a good question!

Samuel Pepys. In his diary he writes about buying a French book considered to be pornographic called ‘Escholle de Filles’. What is funny about the episode is on January 13th he saw the book in a shop, he thought it was lewd and disgusting and didn’t buy it. But a month later on February 8th he was back, he snuck into the shop and bought
"the idle roguish book, L'escholle de filles; which I have bought in plain binding… because I resolve, as soon as I have read it, to burn it."
He drank lots of wine, locked himself away, read it then burnt it. He said it was an idle and lewd book but it a good read for a sober man such as himself to read so as to learn about the villainy of the world.

The book was written by Malliot and was burnt and effigies of the author were hung up. The book is a conversation between Francine and Susanne about sex, the older one telling the younger one all about it.

Molly Cule
160271.  Tue Mar 27, 2007 5:07 am Reply with quote

Erotic images elicit faster and stronger electrical responses in a woman's brain than do images of any other sort. When a woman says, “You turn me on,” it may be her brain that’s talking, as well as her hormones.

Erotic images elicited neuron firing within 160 milliseconds — about 20 percent faster than occurred with any of the other pictures. The stimulation then branched out to other brain regions in all cases, but to different regions for erotic images than for others.

"That surprised us," says researcher Andrey P. Anokhin, PhD, research assistant and professor of psychiatry at Washington University School of Medicine in St. Louis, in a news release. "We believed both pleasant and disturbing images would evoke a rapid response, but erotic scenes always elicited the strongest response."

"Usually men subjectively rate erotic material much higher than women," says Anokhin. "So, based on those data, we would expect lower responses in women, but that was not the case. Women have responses as strong as those seen in men.",2933,199474,00.html

Molly Cule
160283.  Tue Mar 27, 2007 5:20 am Reply with quote

The first modern pornographic experience was born from the ashes of Vesuvius. As Pompeii began to be excavated all sorts of erotic art came to light, one of the first sculptures unearthed was of Pan having sex with a goat, then the residents of Pompeii used to decorate the outsides of their houses with willies, paint them on the street and hang painting of sexual stuff all over the place. The Victorians had a heart attack over all this and collected everything which offended their sensibilities and put it in a museum called The Secret Museum, in Naples, opened 1819. Only gentlemen who were deemed able to watch the museum without making jokes or being aroused were able to go in there. Even today you can’t see the collection without a permit and a guide.
In the catalogues of the Secret Museum authors went to great length to make a point of their academic qualifications. One said he tried to take a totally archaeological and scientific view, his authors ‘remain(ed) calm and serious throughout, in the exercise of his holy office the man of science must neither blush nor smile’. In the illustrations of the items the ‘rude bits’ were downsized so they were less noticeable.

"Pornography" is barely two centuries old, having its origins in the creation of the collection at the Secret Museum. It derives from Greek, Porn -(Prostitution) and Graphier - To write. By the mid 19th C the word was appearing in dictionaries and referred specifically to the Museum at Pompeii. Then it began to take on a more general meaning.

160298.  Tue Mar 27, 2007 5:46 am Reply with quote

Havelock Ellis was Freud's favourite sexologist, he brought the term "homosexual" to the English language as well as coining the term auto-eroticism and came up with the idea of narcissism. Thousands of people would write to Ellis for sexual advice.

He was a virgin when he married a lesbian at the age of 32 and remained impotant until 60 when he realised he could be aroused by the sight of a woman peeing.


160335.  Tue Mar 27, 2007 6:40 am Reply with quote

I love that the key thing about being given access to the porn was that you weren't allowed to laugh.

160342.  Tue Mar 27, 2007 6:58 am Reply with quote

From 1849 to 1860 the Secret Museum was bricked up altogether.

One of the artefacts kept there was a statue called the Venus Kallipygos, the Venus of the Beautiful Buttocks, which was thought to be an illustration of a story about two girls from Syracuse who were the Kylie Minogue and Jennifer Lopez of their time:

The people of those days were so attached to their sensual pleasures that they even went so far as to dedicate a temple to Aphrodite of the Beautiful Buttocks, for the following reason. One upon a time a farmer had two beautiful daughters. One day these girls, getting into a dispute as to which one had a more beautiful backside, and went onto the public street. And by chance a young man was passing by, the son of a rich old man. They showed themselves to him, and when he saw them he voted in favor of the older girl. And in fact, falling in love with her, when he got back to town, he took to his bed and told his younger brother everything that had happened. And the younger brother also went to the country and saw the girls, and he fell in love with the other daughter. And so when the boys' father tried to get them to marry someone of the upper classes, he couldn't persuade his sons, and so he brought the girls in from the country, with their father's permission, and married them to his sons. And so these girls were called fair-buttocked by the citizens, as Cercidas of Megalopolis says in his Iambic Verses: "There was a pair of beautiful-buttocked girls in Syracuse." And so these girls, when they got wealthy and famous, founded a temple of Aphrodite and called the goddess the Fair-buttocked, as Archelaus tells us in his Iambic Verses.

Athenaeus' Deipnosophists 12.554 c-e, cited at

160396.  Tue Mar 27, 2007 8:38 am Reply with quote

Whoa - that is some quality archaic butt.

Erotic temple carvings in Khajuraho, India.

Also, horse-shagging:

160454.  Tue Mar 27, 2007 11:05 am Reply with quote

Formula for nice bottoms at post 160438.

Frederick The Monk
166921.  Tue Apr 17, 2007 10:22 am Reply with quote

Here's Molly's sculpture of Pan having his wicked way with a goat (which is actually from Herculaneum). Who says we can't use it on a pre-watershed show?

166948.  Tue Apr 17, 2007 11:11 am Reply with quote

You’ve got a filthy mind. He’s just tickling its tummy.

Frederick The Monk
166952.  Tue Apr 17, 2007 11:22 am Reply with quote

Just innocent goat-play then?

167613.  Thu Apr 19, 2007 4:21 am Reply with quote

If you turned it 'round a bit more, there'd be less room for interpretation.

They showed that statue on Channel 4's* "A Secret History of Pornography", and it doesn't leave much to the imagination.

*At least, I think it was Ch4. Sounds like the kind of thing they'd do :)


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