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'yorz
920330.  Thu Jun 28, 2012 10:57 am Reply with quote

Since I am not sure whether Jenny c.s. would approve I will not give the link, but those interested could google 'botched circumcisions'. The first entry (Gallery 1-minor) gives a lot of useful information and pictures. Obviously not for the sqeamish.
Never knew so much could and apparently does go wrong.

 
hassan el kebir
920356.  Thu Jun 28, 2012 12:26 pm Reply with quote

Female circumcision is the norm here. I seem to remember reading that it's something like 93% of the women in my region are done.

Apparently, after the poor girl's bits have been removed they are sown into the hem of her gallabaya and left there for a week, they are then dumped in the Nile (just the bits, not the girl, too) for the fish to nibble on.

It has, at various times, been illegal or legal to perform the operation. When legal the girls were carted off to the doctor and the operation was performed reasonably hygienically and with an appropriate instrument. When illegal it is done by a gnarled old crone with a rusty old tin lid or whatever comes to hand.

Al-Azhar mosque, which is the boss mosque, has said that female circumcision is absolutely not to be done but the women ignore this and continue chopping away at their daughters.

All extremely unpleasant, if you ask me.





Interestingly, it is the women who carry on the tradition and you'd think they'd be the ones to put a stop to it.

I wish they would stop it, there's a couple of Egyptian ladies I've met that I might have been interested in were it not for the fact that they would have been mutilated.

 
Jenny
920360.  Thu Jun 28, 2012 12:34 pm Reply with quote

'yorz - thank you for your restraint. I think the Google instructions will suffice for anybody who is interested enough to want to follow them.

 
Oceans Edge
920412.  Thu Jun 28, 2012 3:11 pm Reply with quote

suze wrote:
The jury is, at best, out and hopelessly hung. We can however say that in the vast majority of cases there are no long term disbenefits to the procedure.


I will say I have seen arguments that it decreases sensation in the penis, resulting in a decrease in pleasure - but as the procedure is performed in the vast majority on babies it's almost impossible to prove even anecdotally.

 
Spud McLaren
920427.  Thu Jun 28, 2012 5:05 pm Reply with quote

Oceans Edge wrote:
I will say I have seen arguments that it decreases sensation in the penis, resulting in a decrease in pleasure - but as the procedure is performed in the vast majority on babies it's almost impossible to prove even anecdotally.
Of course it can't be proven in the mathematical sense, but I can tell you that there is a decrease. I don't need to hear the arguments.

 
nitwit02
921448.  Tue Jul 03, 2012 9:19 pm Reply with quote

We males are born with a foreskin. Why mess with nature unless for some reason, medically necessary?

 
Efros
921506.  Wed Jul 04, 2012 4:23 am Reply with quote

You're asking this species not to mess with nature, good luck with that one!

 
suze
921657.  Wed Jul 04, 2012 12:26 pm Reply with quote

Oceans Edge wrote:
I will say I have seen arguments that it decreases sensation in the penis, resulting in a decrease in pleasure - but as the procedure is performed in the vast majority on babies it's almost impossible to prove even anecdotally.


It actually isn't, you know. It's very difficult to quote figures, because in the USA in particular the procedure is considered practically routine in some parts and is not always coded into the medical records. But to one sig fig, about 60% of male infants born in the USA are subjected to the procedure. There are large geographical differences - it's least common in the states which are heavily Hispanic, simply because it has never been a Catholic custom, and most common in the red heartlands.

To a similar one sig fig level, the comparable figure for Canada is about 30%. Highest in Alberta (cf those red heartlands) but close to zero in Newfoundland (the most strongly Catholic of the English-speaking provinces). In all of Europe barring the Muslim enclaves in the Balkans, the rate is below 20%; Finland at one point claimed a rate of zero.

All of these numbers have changed in our lifetimes. It was the norm in Canada until about 1970, and only within the last decade has it shown any sign of ceasing to be the norm in the USA.


Coming to the point, I've been with guys of both kinds. What with being Canadian and born pre-1970, most of the boys in high school were cut - although what with being RC and having had quite a few RC boyfriends, I probably encountered more of the uncut kind than most of my peers.

Since - in my experience, at least - guys tend to draw the prepuce as far out of the way as they can before getting down to business, I struggle a little to believe that its presence or absence actually makes very much difference to the man's pleasure. But I reckon you'd have to ask a guy who had been circumcized as an adult, having already had sex before undergoing the procedure.

 
'yorz
921663.  Wed Jul 04, 2012 1:04 pm Reply with quote

Each circumcised man I've slept with* was unhappy with his parents' decision. There were complaints about the irritation they experienced, their exposed glans continuously touching their underwear. Silk proved to be the least irritating.
Therefore 'freeballing' was out of the question.
However, a bit of googling teaches that others have no such problem.

*please don't envision entire cohorts

 
Zebra57
923039.  Tue Jul 10, 2012 4:28 am Reply with quote

Polar explorers (male) who are circumcised are more prone to frostbite.

 
Zebra57
1029897.  Fri Oct 18, 2013 8:15 pm Reply with quote

At last the answer to an interesting observation - why do the German always get their towels out first to reserve their sun loungers by the pool? The three papers The Mail, Telegraph and Independent have some ideas.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2158003/Why-Germans-getting-towels-sunlounger-sleeping-hitting-snooze.html

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/science-news/9326045/Why-German-tourists-get-their-towels-down-first.html

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/videos-explain-why-germans-are-so-rude-the-countrys-centurieslong-subdivision-into-ministates-led-people-to-feel-constantly-surrounded-by-enemies-8887453.html

 
CharliesDragon
1029899.  Fri Oct 18, 2013 9:44 pm Reply with quote

Zebra57 wrote:
Polar explorers (male) who are circumcised are more prone to frostbite.


That is absolutely horrible if it's true! (If it's true you only have a minute or two to pee before in danger of damage, I guess it is.)

 
knightmare
1032139.  Tue Oct 29, 2013 4:52 am Reply with quote

Don't mention the w...

...ind farm. According to international borders and international rules, is the offshore wind farm Riffgat fully located in Germany?

Please note that the Wikipedia article isn't accurate, or the answer to the question is probably yes: "Early 2011, the Dutch government stated that the wind farm was partly in Dutch territory and protested against the issuing of construction licenses by the German government.". I don't think that natural gas is the underlying issue, but I'm not sure about that.

 
AlmondFacialBar
1032142.  Tue Oct 29, 2013 5:05 am Reply with quote

Believe you me, if that was the only issue with Riffgat my parents would be sucking Diesel (or windpower I guess). The main problem has rather been that the tidelands there were still so full of WW II ammo that they weren't able to actually lay the cables to get the power to shore. Apparently they're now finally cleared and building has resumed. Estimated completion date? No idea... That kind of shit is becoming more and more prevalent in Germany and that worries me.

:-)

AlmondFacialBar

 
Efros
1032144.  Tue Oct 29, 2013 5:16 am Reply with quote

Zebra57 wrote:
At last the answer to an interesting observation - why do the German always get their towels out first to reserve their sun loungers by the pool? The three papers The Mail, Telegraph and Independent have some ideas.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/science-news/9326045/Why-German-tourists-get-their-towels-down-first.html


From the Telegraph article "It is much smaller for Brits, by more than 30 minutes, which means that the working day starting at 8.50am (compared to the German work day starting at 8.20am on average) better suits the sleep need of the UK population.''

I think that is arse backwards thinking, I think the working day has conditioned the sleep pattern and not the other way around. I know this as moving from a job which started at 9 am to one that starts at 7 am my sleep pattern has shifted by 2 hours.

 

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