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MatC
148256.  Sat Feb 17, 2007 7:15 am Reply with quote

Q: When was homosexuality invented?

A: 1869.

Austro-Hungarian doctor and sexologist K.M. Benkert coined the word "homosexual," as the name of a psychological illness. He wanted to get away from discussing same-sex acts in terms of sin, and instead be able to talk about them in a rational way - as medical problems.

Many argue that the concept of homosexuality began with its naming; before that, there were terms (and therefore concepts) for effeminate men, for men who had sex with men, and for men who bought and sold sex with other men, and for same-sex sexual acts - but the overarching idea of homosexuality (incorporating the orientation, the individuals, and the sexual acts) began with Benkert. In other words, there didn't exist a group of people, identifiable as homosexuals, or an orientation, identifiable as such, until it was named.

Besides which, it would just be a very funny question for Stephen to ask Phil Jupitus, playing the embarrassed straight man.

S: http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/homosexuality
www.canadianencyclopedia.ca/index.cfm?PgNm=TCE&Params=A1ARTA0003826
www.studentweb.law.ttu.edu/lambda/quiz.htm

 
dr.bob
148673.  Mon Feb 19, 2007 4:51 am Reply with quote

Wikipedia agrees on the year, but disagrees on the person. It claims that the first known appearance in print of the word homosexual was indeed in 1869 but that it occurred in a German pamphlet by the Austrian-born novelist Karl-Maria Kertbeny, published anonymously, and that the concept owed much to the work of German psychiatrist Richard Freiherr von Krafft-Ebing and his 1886 work Psychopathia Sexualis.

Hmmm, a bit more digging required to settle this argument, methinks. Although it already seems clear that Austrians invented homosexuality.

 
MatC
148710.  Mon Feb 19, 2007 5:47 am Reply with quote

dr.bob wrote:
Wikipedia agrees on the year, but disagrees on the person. It claims that the first known appearance in print of the word homosexual was indeed in 1869 but that it occurred in a German pamphlet by the Austrian-born novelist Karl-Maria Kertbeny, published anonymously, and that the concept owed much to the work of German psychiatrist Richard Freiherr von Krafft-Ebing and his 1886 work Psychopathia Sexualis.

Hmmm, a bit more digging required to settle this argument, methinks. Although it already seems clear that Austrians invented homosexuality.


Sorry, Bob, I was rushing, otherwise I would have made that clear - it's the same bloke! He wrote under a pseudonym because of the fundamentally non-respectable nature of his probings.

 
eggshaped
148713.  Mon Feb 19, 2007 5:50 am Reply with quote

K.M. Benkert versus Karl-Maria Kertbeny.

Pretty crappy pseudonym if you ask me.

 
MatC
148718.  Mon Feb 19, 2007 5:57 am Reply with quote

He wasn't trying that hard, was he? Good enough to fool wikitedia, apparently, but there you go ...

 
dr.bob
148727.  Mon Feb 19, 2007 6:33 am Reply with quote

And certain proto-elves :)

I did think it sounded a bit like a remarkable coincidence.

 
Flash
148790.  Mon Feb 19, 2007 8:59 am Reply with quote

eggshaped wrote:
K.M. Benkert versus Karl-Maria Kertbeny.


Or "Bent Kurt", as he was known on the Club scene.

 

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