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Frederick The Monk
156787.  Thu Mar 15, 2007 9:21 am Reply with quote

Talking of saucy names, lets not forget John Le Fucker, recorded in 1250 and the first written instance of the word 'fuck' in England.

156797.  Thu Mar 15, 2007 10:06 am Reply with quote

With a klaxon for anyone who says "Oh yeah, he was in Dad's Army, wasn't he?"

156800.  Thu Mar 15, 2007 10:12 am Reply with quote

The bird now known as the windhover was, in less mealy-mouthed days, known as the wind-fucker.

165647.  Fri Apr 13, 2007 7:13 am Reply with quote

Here’s one of the best eke names ever: the 17th century highwayman Cardonell Goodman, sometime lover of Barbara Villiers, was known to all as Scum Goodman.

Villiers (1641-1709) was Duchess of Cleveland, and at the age of 19 became Charles II’s lover. She was known as “the fairest and lewdest of the royal concubines,” and bore the king six children. After the king’s death, she seems to have gone off the rails a bit. According to Lord Coleraine, she demonstrated her irreverence by biting the penis off a recently exhumed bishop. Which I suppose would get the job done, fair enough.

Scum Goodman was eventually jailed for conspiring to poison her sons, the Dukes of Grafton and Northumberland. At the age of 64, Villiers married a man called Robert ‘Bean’ Fielding (another Mr Bean) - who was already married. He was sentenced to have his hand burned for bigamy.

Barbara Villiers’ descendents include Lady Di and Princess Fergie.

S: Characters of Fitzrovia by Pentelow and Rowe (Pimlico, 2002).

165679.  Fri Apr 13, 2007 8:13 am Reply with quote

Rugby league star Martin Offiah has the excellent nickname 'Chariots'. Here he goes now:

165681.  Fri Apr 13, 2007 8:15 am Reply with quote

Not good as former Oldham defender Fitz Hall, with the eke-name "One Size".

This is he. Apparently he's at Wigan now.

165682.  Fri Apr 13, 2007 8:21 am Reply with quote

He doesn't seem to have fully grasped the nuances of the game, though...

165777.  Fri Apr 13, 2007 10:43 am Reply with quote

And then of course there was Mark “Afghan” Waugh - being less celebrated than his brother, Steve “Tugga” Waugh, he was named after “the forgotten war.”

168982.  Mon Apr 23, 2007 7:36 am Reply with quote

A quite unfortunate nickname that I discovered this lunchtime on a trip to the National Portrait Gallery here in Edinburgh, King Malcolm IV of Scotland was known as "Malcolm the Maiden."

According to Walter Scott (that well-known accurate historian) he was given the nickname because he "was so kind and gentle in his disposition." However, a couple of other websites* where I've found reference to this generally agree that the name refers to the fact that he never married and was generally believed to have taken a vow of celibacy. Whilst the former is definitely true, it's impossible to know whether he was truly celibate.

Is there not a more manly word for someone who remains celibate than "maiden"?


168991.  Mon Apr 23, 2007 8:02 am Reply with quote

Whilst the former is definitely true, it's impossible to know whether he was truly celibate

So, he was definitely celibate (which means single) but we don’t know whether he was celibate (which has a secondary, more modern, meaning of abstaining from sexual intercourse).


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