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PDR
1378063.  Mon Mar 29, 2021 9:23 am Reply with quote

Shouldn't you have started a separate thread for that thought?

PDR

 
tetsabb
1378092.  Mon Mar 29, 2021 1:42 pm Reply with quote

Are you telling me I should have?

 
CB27
1378094.  Mon Mar 29, 2021 2:05 pm Reply with quote

Anyway, going back to the original post, I understand the arithmetic element to it, if you just look at the numbers, but the reason for the "long winded" way it was put is that we view certain events as not only being part of history, but that history now being abstract so as to automatically view it as ancient (rightly or wrongly).

Some younger people might feel the same way about how long ago the Soviet Union collapsed, they don't think it affects their current history.

One example I like because it's quite a rare "achievement", within months of the Bill Rights, and during the early period of George Washington's Presidency, John Tyler was born in 1790. He would later become the 10th President of the US, and died shortly after the US Civil War began. He still has one grandson alive today.

The US Civil war was so long ago, that it's hard to imagine anyone still alive who had grandparents during it, unless you start doing the maths, but to have a grandfather who was already an old man at the start of that war, and was around during the start of the US seems, automatically seems like something that was more than just two generations ago.

 
crissdee
1378099.  Mon Mar 29, 2021 2:53 pm Reply with quote

In the same vein, there was the episode of the show where they displayed this photo;



to the general amazement that it was of the Duke of Wellington, and my own amazement to realise that P.G. Wodehouse was old enough to have read of the Whitechapel murders as they were reported in the papers, but lived to see man walk on the moon.

 
Leith
1378100.  Mon Mar 29, 2021 2:54 pm Reply with quote

I find the passage of time compresses my perspective of history.

When I was a child, the second world war was four lifetimes ago, now it's only two, and seems closer in many ways.

In turn, the end of the nineteenth century no longer seems as unimaginably distant as it once did.

 
CB27
1378105.  Mon Mar 29, 2021 3:23 pm Reply with quote

Mention of Whitechapel reminds me that Nintendo started life at the same time Jack was committing his murders.

My own personal connection is that my great grandparents were living in Whitechapel for a few years before and after the murders, so no doubt would have been worried by the events.

They lived in St George in the East parish, and some of the family continued to live there until WW2. The area was more famous for an event my family was definitely involved with, the Battle of Cable Street.

 
tetsabb
1378122.  Tue Mar 30, 2021 12:13 am Reply with quote

My sister was born in 1952. My mother's grandfather was born in 1852.
My sister's grandchildren may well be parents in 2052

 
crissdee
1378137.  Tue Mar 30, 2021 4:12 am Reply with quote

CB27 wrote:
..... my great grandparents were living in Whitechapel for a few years before and after the murders, so no doubt would have been worried by the events......They lived in St George in the East parish


They must have been near neighbours of my great-grandparents! They lived in Cannon St Rd, and ran (iirc) a tobacconists shop.

 
PDR
1378155.  Tue Mar 30, 2021 8:46 am Reply with quote

CB27 wrote:
Mention of Whitechapel reminds me that Nintendo started life at the same time Jack was committing his murders.


They could have been in on the arrest if they'd played their cards right, but surprisingly it was Apple who introduced the Shuffle.

PDR

 
Big Martin
1378159.  Tue Mar 30, 2021 9:48 am Reply with quote

Always thought about my grandmother that the Wright brothers hadn't taken off yet when she was born, but she flew to visit my uncle in NZ several times before she died.

 
Jenny
1378162.  Tue Mar 30, 2021 10:19 am Reply with quote

Interesting article about Harrison Tyler and similar long generations here: https://www.washingtonpost.com/history/2020/11/29/president-john-tyler-grandson-harrison/

Closer to our time, I think about my parents - father born 1914 and mother born 1918.

 
tetsabb
1378168.  Tue Mar 30, 2021 10:41 am Reply with quote

My mum 1920, dad 1922, so quite close to yours, Jen

 
CB27
1378205.  Wed Mar 31, 2021 7:37 am Reply with quote

crissdee wrote:
CB27 wrote:
..... my great grandparents were living in Whitechapel for a few years before and after the murders, so no doubt would have been worried by the events......They lived in St George in the East parish

They must have been near neighbours of my great-grandparents! They lived in Cannon St Rd, and ran (iirc) a tobacconists shop.

I know my great grandfather was a tailor, and they seemed to have done well in the end because after the turn of the century they were taking my grandad and his siblings on foreign holidays. Not sure where the shop was though, will need to look up.

My grandad used to reminisce about his time growing up there, and his favourite film for many years was "A kid for two farthings" :)

 
Janet H
1378639.  Tue Apr 06, 2021 2:34 pm Reply with quote

One fact I heard on a podcast the other day was that the Tyrannosaurus [sp] is nearer to us than it was to the Stegasaurus. My jaw really did drop.

 
crissdee
1378642.  Tue Apr 06, 2021 3:27 pm Reply with quote

Yes, it's easy to forget that the time of the dinosaurs covered about 165 million years. We have hardly established a foothold on the geological scale...

 

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