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1377042.  Thu Mar 18, 2021 5:03 am Reply with quote

Many of the royal houses of Europe are notorious for inbreeding, but ancestry of Carlos II of Spain, who died in 1700, surpasses most of them.

If you go back 7 generations, everyone has 254 ancestors. In Carlos's case, these comprised just 82 different individuals. Inbreeding, much of it intergenerational, was rife. Carlos's father was his mother's uncle, and as a result, his paternal grandfather, Philip II, was also his great-grandfather and his great-great uncle at the same time.

He was mentally and physically disabled, deformed and could hardly talk due to his tongue being too large for his mouth. He had the famous Hapsburg chin, and his wife, on seeing him for the first time, declared that he was the ugliest man she had ever seen.

He was the last of the Spanish Hapsburg monarchs, as he could not produce an heir. Nature, seemingly, had given up the fight.

1377105.  Thu Mar 18, 2021 4:00 pm Reply with quote

Inbreeding, while posing issues with prevalent disorders, is not always so dangerous as to end a familial line so quickly, I think this one was an extreme example.

After all, if it wasn't for inbreeding, many ancient communities would not have survived to eventually produce the various ethnicities we see today.

Even today inbreeding is still quite widespread in the Middle East and North Africa, as many people in these regions still live in remote communities with traditions that mean the only available people to marry are very close relatives.

1377112.  Thu Mar 18, 2021 4:58 pm Reply with quote

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