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Alexander Howard
1351531.  Sat Jun 27, 2020 3:44 am Reply with quote

I've been waiting for this one to come up. As every spot in the British Isles is within one of the 118 traditional counties, and each has its own stories to tell, there must be a world of quite interesting facts to be found.

I could start off by saying that if you stand in the right place, you can walk directly from Surrey to Cornwall passing only through Middlesex on the way: but where?

 
suze
1351550.  Sat Jun 27, 2020 7:40 am Reply with quote

I know the answer to that, so I won't spoil it just yet.

But I might take issue with the notion that every spot in the British Isles is within one of the 118 traditional counties. Does not the City of London lie outwith any of the traditional counties?

 
CB27
1351574.  Sat Jun 27, 2020 2:43 pm Reply with quote

If it's where I'm thinking, I guess that means you could even stop over at Manchester along the way :)

 
tetsabb
1351575.  Sat Jun 27, 2020 3:13 pm Reply with quote

Mornington Crescent?
😃

 
suze
1351578.  Sat Jun 27, 2020 3:53 pm Reply with quote

CB27 wrote:
If it's where I'm thinking, I guess that means you could even stop over at Manchester along the way :)


You could indeed! Manchester is in Cornwall, as indeed is Westmoreland.

The capital of Cornwall is Falmouth which is on the north coast, while the capital of Surrey is Kingston.

 
Alexander Howard
1351596.  Sun Jun 28, 2020 7:26 am Reply with quote

Maybe I did choose a well-known one....

 
CB27
1351599.  Sun Jun 28, 2020 7:59 am Reply with quote

I have family connections in that part of the world, so it helped, but I'm guessing others are still stumped...

 
Jenny
1351611.  Sun Jun 28, 2020 1:32 pm Reply with quote

Sounds like Maine to me!

 
tetsabb
1351614.  Sun Jun 28, 2020 1:39 pm Reply with quote

I am suspecting that Mr Howard's challenge may refer to a Caribbean island, and will even plump for Jamaica.

 
suze
1351622.  Sun Jun 28, 2020 4:41 pm Reply with quote

It is indeed Jamaica. The three counties of Jamaica were supposedly named Cornwall because it was in the west, Middlesex because it was in the middle, and Surrey because it contained Kingston.

While plenty of countries divide themselves into counties or something very similar, I don't believe that anywhere except Jamaica lifted all of its county names straight from the Old Country.

 
PDR
1351624.  Sun Jun 28, 2020 4:58 pm Reply with quote

Returning to the thread title - I gather they make a decent pint, although some say it's only available in the 4 dimension (I think that's Bull).

PDR

 
tetsabb
1351644.  Mon Jun 29, 2020 4:32 am Reply with quote

suze wrote:
It is indeed Jamaica.


Yay!
Do I get points, or permission to vacate the Nughty Step for a while?
😉

 
suze
1351665.  Mon Jun 29, 2020 11:39 am Reply with quote

Points, certainly.

I am not Ye Official Comptroller of the Naughty Step, so permission to vacate it is not within my gift.


I'm still keen to hear from Alexander or anyone else on whether or not the City of London was historically in any county. Was it a County Of Itself in the same way as (for instance) Bristol, or was it "in Middlesex, sort of" as the good husband tends to think?

 
tetsabb
1351669.  Mon Jun 29, 2020 12:03 pm Reply with quote

suze wrote:
I am not Ye Official Comptroller of the Naughty Step, so



But who is?
😉

 
CB27
1351678.  Mon Jun 29, 2020 1:26 pm Reply with quote

suze wrote:
I'm still keen to hear from Alexander or anyone else on whether or not the City of London was historically in any county. Was it a County Of Itself in the same way as (for instance) Bristol, or was it "in Middlesex, sort of" as the good husband tends to think?


As I understand it, Bristol and the City of London, and several others were made County Corporate to give them some autonomy from their surrounding county.

In London, this was the case since 1132, but I think in 1965 it was renamed as a ceremonial county.

Bristol was corporate since 1373, but it was expanded in the 16th century and then at some point absorbed into the greater county before regaining it's ceremonial county status in the 1990s.

 

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