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samivel
131303.  Thu Jan 04, 2007 12:53 pm Reply with quote

Can you find us some pictures, please, your majesty?

:)

 
King of Quok
131305.  Thu Jan 04, 2007 12:55 pm Reply with quote

Thanks for the welcome on the other thread, Samivel!



that's the hungry gulper eel...



and that's the slender snipe eel, puckering up before his mouth drops off so he can go snuffling for lady eels.

 
samivel
131313.  Thu Jan 04, 2007 1:37 pm Reply with quote

Lovely stuff!

 
Jenny
131376.  Thu Jan 04, 2007 7:16 pm Reply with quote

Fascinating stuff!

 
King of Quok
131411.  Thu Jan 04, 2007 7:57 pm Reply with quote

samivel wrote:
Lovely stuff!


I'm not sure gulper eels are that lovely to anything other than other gulper eels, and even then it's pretty dark down there, which probably helps in much the same way as the low lights in seedy nightclubs. I would imagine.

Have also just come across two more bits of eel-related trivia. Firstly, they are the only fish (I think...) to have a country (or at least a British Overseas Territory) named after them: the island of Anguilla in the Lesser Antilles, although this apparently has to do with the shape of the island resembling an eel, rather than any eels found nearby. I've also foud a brilliant expression, 'holding the eel of science by the tail', from Erasmus' 'Adagia' (1629) - 'cauda tenens anguillam, in eos apte dicetur, quibus res est cum hominibus lubrica fide, perfidisque, aut qui rem fugitivam atque incertam aliquam habent, quam tueri diu non possint' - which basically equates to a proverbial expression used to describe those who have a slight smattering of knowledge in a given subject that slips from their minds when they try to use it, just as an eel would slip out of your fingers if you held it by the tail. It sounds very much something like Stephen Fry would say!

 
The Luggage
131710.  Fri Jan 05, 2007 10:27 pm Reply with quote

Flash wrote:
Conversely, hagfish may not be fish, since they are much more primitive than any other fish group. Even so, they can literally tie themselves into knots, which is more than I can do these days (I'm not as young as I was). They eat their prey from the inside out, by crawling into living or dead fish and then eating their surroundings.

It isn't even clear whether they are vertebrates or not.

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When hagfish wish to disengage from their current prey, they form a knot with their body and slide it towards the mouth. The knot provides something to press against in order to pull the mouth off. This is a unique trait.

I should jolly well hope so.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hagfish


I just watched an episode of The Blue Planet in which hagfish featured prominently. Attenborough says that they are invertabrates. Some great footage of them tying themselves in knots while eating a decomposing whale.

 
King of Quok
131727.  Sat Jan 06, 2007 6:22 am Reply with quote

Eels are not to be confused with the bumblebee eelworm (Sphaerularia bombi), a nematode worm and a tiny, but pretty disgusting parasite which only lives on queen bumblebees. The nematode measures only about 0.3mm long and, having mated in wet soil, they enter hibernating queen bees through their mouthparts. They alter the prosuction of hormones within the bee's body so that rather than searching for and establishing a nest site after emerging from hibernation, the queen bee's ovaries don't develop, and she just gorges herself on food. The adult eelworm, having mated before entering the bee, then undergoes a remarkable change whereby its vagina swells to 20,000 times its own size. The vagina becomes independent of the body of the eelworm which shrivels away to nothing. The eggs (around 100,000 of them) are then released through into the gut of the queen bee. The queen bee then returns to the hibernation site, the eggs, having developed into larvae within her are then discharged into the soil in her excreta. I think I prefer eels to eelworms.

 
HasBeany
167683.  Thu Apr 19, 2007 6:08 am Reply with quote

My very favourite thing about eels is the word used for catching them. It's just so adorable and seems to have nothing to do with the action. The word is sniggle.

It means to catch eels by dropping bait in their hiding places. The practice has been around for millennia and eel catching equipment has been discovered in North and South America and throughout Europe. The word sniggle I believe began to be used in the 17th century and probably comes from a combo of snig + eel, with snig meaning snag.

Well, I think it's quite interesting!
;)

 
swot
167766.  Thu Apr 19, 2007 7:36 am Reply with quote

Aww that's sweet. Might be a good question too 'How often do you sniggle?'

 
Tas
167772.  Thu Apr 19, 2007 7:47 am Reply with quote

I thought a sniggle was what happened when you got a fit of the giggles mid-snog.

Oh well.

:-)

Tas

 
swot
168114.  Fri Apr 20, 2007 5:46 am Reply with quote

That could be a klaxon.

 
gerontius grumpus
168334.  Fri Apr 20, 2007 12:45 pm Reply with quote

HasBeany wrote:
My very favourite thing about eels is the word used for catching them. It's just so adorable and seems to have nothing to do with the action. The word is sniggle.

It means to catch eels by dropping bait in their hiding places. The practice has been around for millennia and eel catching equipment has been discovered in North and South America and throughout Europe. The word sniggle I believe began to be used in the 17th century and probably comes from a combo of snig + eel, with snig meaning snag.

Well, I think it's quite interesting!
;)


Is that the method where you thread hundreds of earthworms on a hank of wool and dangle the big wormy bundle on the end of a thick string on a long, stout pole and lift the eels out as they hang onto the bait?

I read an article about this method years ago but I can't remember what they called it.

 
HasBeany
168355.  Fri Apr 20, 2007 2:03 pm Reply with quote

gerontius grumpus wrote:
HasBeany wrote:
My very favourite thing about eels is the word used for catching them. It's just so adorable and seems to have nothing to do with the action. The word is sniggle.

It means to catch eels by dropping bait in their hiding places. The practice has been around for millennia and eel catching equipment has been discovered in North and South America and throughout Europe. The word sniggle I believe began to be used in the 17th century and probably comes from a combo of snig + eel, with snig meaning snag.

Well, I think it's quite interesting!
;)


Is that the method where you thread hundreds of earthworms on a hank of wool and dangle the big wormy bundle on the end of a thick string on a long, stout pole and lift the eels out as they hang onto the bait?

I read an article about this method years ago but I can't remember what they called it.


I'm no expert, believe me! But I think you're referring to bobbing, sometimes called blobbing. Here's a decent reference page.
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A hookless linefishing method is known in many countries; in England this is known as “bobbing” or “blobbing”, etc. In this method lob worms are threaded lengthwise on a rough twine (sometimes made up of a combination of hemp and wool). This wormline is crowded together and weighted with small lead shots. It is fished at the bottom where the eel comes across the bait and becomes entangled by its teeth when taking the bait. The eel can then be caught if lifted very quickly out of the water and over a box or an open umbrella held upside down to receive the fish. This method is known not only in Western Europe but also in Turkey. Some Australian tribes also practice it. Modern eelbobs are made of a little bag of nylon hoses filled with bait and a weight. Here also the eel is caught by becoming hooked by its teeth in the fabric when attempting to get at the bait as already described.

Lines with hooks are used in present-day eelfishing. These hooks can be curved in the usual form, but gorges are also known. In France, gorges are used especially for eelfishing even today. In England, gorges in the form of needles are used for eelfishing in a method called “sniggling”.

 
Mulvil
168363.  Fri Apr 20, 2007 2:26 pm Reply with quote

Eels are remarkably difficult to farm, in particular if you want to develop a hatchery!!

 
DiesIrae
1171954.  Mon Jan 25, 2016 10:01 am Reply with quote

Couple hundred years ago people from Estonia believed, that in nighttime eels came and steal their peas from fields. As odd as it is, but as been pointed out, eels weren't considered fish until late 18 century.
I believe there is some species of pike that can migrate from one river to another by land, so maybe it wasn't so stupid thought afterall. Silly people those old folks.

 

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