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751278.  Tue Oct 12, 2010 1:44 am Reply with quote

Alan Davis uttered the immortal line "All Australasian Mammals are Marsupials"
Alan, Alan, Alan, all Australian mammals maybe marsupials but all Australasian mammls are not. Here in New Zealand we only have one native land mammal and its a bat - a very small bat at that.

Please here in New Zealand the only marsupials are Australin ones that have emigrated here.

751282.  Tue Oct 12, 2010 2:31 am Reply with quote

G'day NZMoggy. Welcome to the forum. There's a nice kitty :)

751442.  Tue Oct 12, 2010 12:27 pm Reply with quote

Hi NZMoggy welcome.

Alan also forgot the Duck Billed Platypus and the Echidna. They are not marsupial but inhabit Australia/Australasia.

In Australia the 75 species of bats constitute the only non placental mammals.

751456.  Tue Oct 12, 2010 1:32 pm Reply with quote

Thanks for the welcome

Alan did forget those two but they were picked up by Stephen, no surprises there :-) Perhaps Alan doesn't think bats are land mammals. Here in NZ we do birds in a big way oh we have a soecis of frog that gives birth to live youg. We'll we've always been a bit different but let;s face it no one can compete with a Duck Billed Platypus. Is it platypi or platpussies?

751497.  Tue Oct 12, 2010 4:18 pm Reply with quote

Platypus means flat or broad from a Greek word via Latin.

To quote wiki:

"There is no universally agreed plural of "platypus" in the English language. Scientists generally use "platypuses" or simply "platypus". Colloquially the term "platypi" is also used for the plural, although this is technically incorrect and a form of pseudo-Latin; the correct Greek plural would be platypodes".

As platypus is derived from Greek then Wiki is technically correct to suggest platypodes but Latin/Greek words often do not use the Greek plural.

Sadurian Mike
751514.  Tue Oct 12, 2010 4:39 pm Reply with quote

NZMoggy wrote:
Here in New Zealand we only have one native land mammal and its a bat - a very small bat at that.

I thought you counted seals as well, even though they are sort of sea-dwelling. That's what we were told when we went to visit NZ, anyway.

751532.  Tue Oct 12, 2010 5:12 pm Reply with quote

There are three species of bat native to NZ
Long-tailed bat
Greater Short-tailed bat
Lesser short-tailed bat

All three are endangered owing to habitat loss. The greater short-tailed bat may be already extinct in the wild.

There is the New Zealand Sea Lion

There are also three species of Seal
New Zealand Fur Seal
Elephant Seal
Leopard Seal

752506.  Sat Oct 16, 2010 6:55 pm Reply with quote

Zebra57 wrote:
In Australia the 75 species of bats constitute the only non placental mammals.

I think you have one non too many there—or too few.


752507.  Sat Oct 16, 2010 6:58 pm Reply with quote

you are quite correct tc thanks

752510.  Sat Oct 16, 2010 7:03 pm Reply with quote

Is the statement true, in any case?

We are told that - with the exception of those bats and the two kinds of monotreme - all mammals native to Australia are marsupials. Now I'll accept that the various mammals introduced since Western colonization are not native - so cattle, rabbits, sheep, cats, and so on.

But what about the dingo? It is not a marsupial, and it was present in Australia long before Western discovery.

752516.  Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:04 pm Reply with quote

It depends on the definition of "native". The dingo was introduced by the Aboriginal people and researchers reckon could account for the disappearance of the Thylacine on the Australian mainland.

Dr. Know
752519.  Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:12 pm Reply with quote

all mammals native to Australia are marsupials.

And therefore, not mammals?

Alfred E Neuman
752706.  Sun Oct 17, 2010 12:44 pm Reply with quote

Dr. Know wrote:
all mammals native to Australia are marsupials.

And therefore, not mammals?

Except for the fact that marsupials are mammals, yes.

765956.  Thu Dec 09, 2010 8:11 am Reply with quote

We have two monotremes (platypus and short-beaked echidna), 75 species of native bats and 60 native rodents. 45% of land mammal species in Australia are bats or rodents (eutherians = placentals) (bats- , rodents- These are all mammals. Most of them are quite interesting.

For example, I like giant white-tailed rats. They are tree-dwelling rainforest animals the size of a cat, some hang around campsites and have learned that tins have food. They now open tins they find in camper's food supplies using their teeth (scary incisors). Stick-nest rats are large desert rodents with long soft fur like a chinchilla. They live in groups and construct huge woven nests with tunnels through them out of sticks over many generations. The two species are extinct on the mainland, but one survives on an island. Ghost bats are large, pure white, desert and savanna carnivorous bats with big ears and eyes, they are also rare and declining. They mainly eat other bats, also frogs and lizards.

Up to series three episode three here, it's great to see there are so many more to look forward to.

765960.  Thu Dec 09, 2010 8:19 am Reply with quote

Another Aussie newbie. It's an invasion!

Welcome :)


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