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bobwilson
1288586.  Fri Jun 29, 2018 7:11 pm Reply with quote

It has also occurred to me that it is now possible to petition parliament (not something I would usually bother with, but desperate times need desperate measures).

I looked on the relevant .gov.uk website and there are dozens of petitions (all dismissed) calling for the release of this prat.

It seems to me that a petition in the opposite direction might have a salutary effect. Assuming that the original targets of Mr Y-L's ire have now been found guilty and sentenced (if that's not the case, and I can't figure out whether that's true or not, then this won't work):

What I had in mind was a petition asking Parliament to:

take note of the fact that Mr Y-L's actions seem to be deliberately designed to sabotage the prosecution of dangerous paedophiles;
that Mr Y-L was specifically made aware of this fact when the relevant court orders against him were made;
and that notwithstanding his claims to be a "nationalist hero" his actions indicate that he has a secret agenda to operate in league with these dangerous criminals to ensure that they could never be brought to justice

and further asking Parliament to make representations to the parole board when they (the parole board) are due to consider any early release of Mr Y-L such that the parole board will take into consideration the failure of Mr Y-L to correct the misapprehension that he (Mr Y-L) is the victim of a witch hunt when his actions would clearly have the effect of ensuring dangerous criminals to roam the streets

I'm not putting that very well am I? What I mean is - his actions had the effect of making it difficult, if not impossible, to bring to trial dangerous criminals - and as such he must be in league with those criminals.

The rules of petitioning parliament require an initial 5 signatories apparently. If we could work out a suitable wording which basically makes it sound as if he's done this to ASSIST the defendants.......... well, you see my point?

 
suze
1288593.  Sat Jun 30, 2018 1:32 am Reply with quote

The first time that Mr Y-L was arrested outside a court was in Canterbury in May of last year. He was convicted of contempt and given a suspended sentence. The details of that case upon which he attempted to "report" can be seen on the Kent Messenger; all four defendants were convicted and jailed, Three are named in the KM piece; the fourth was a minor.

He was arrested for a similar offence outside a court in Leeds this May. As a result of this, the suspended sentence was "activated" and he was sent to prison. Details of the case upon which he was attempting to "report" this time seem not to be readily available. I dare say that a man with your connexions could find them out if he really wanted, but it may be that the case remains ongoing and that reporting restrictions are in place.

 
bobwilson
1288676.  Sat Jun 30, 2018 6:06 pm Reply with quote

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I dare say that a man with your connexions could find them out if he really wanted


I could (of course) find out what I needed to know - but I'm lazy, busy and currently absent.

I'll see if I can draw up a suitably worded petition to Parliament that'll highlight YL's idiocy. What I want to avoid is overtly calling for (for example) YL to be strung up from the nearest lamp-post - better to call for an inquiry to investigate possible links between him and paedophile gangs since his actions seem to be deliberately designed to ensure they can never be brought to justice.

 
crissdee
1288682.  Sun Jul 01, 2018 3:05 am Reply with quote

I'm not saying you're wrong Bob, but isn't there a small chance that you are suggesting criminality where stupidity would also meet the facts?

 
'yorz
1289118.  Thu Jul 05, 2018 10:09 am Reply with quote

A planned march to show support for jailed EDL founder Tommy Robinson has been rescheduled because it clashes with England's World Cup quarter final tie against Sweden..

“What do we want?”

“JUSTICE!”

“When do we want it?”

“Umm, it can probably wait a bit, tbf”

 
bobwilson
1289271.  Fri Jul 06, 2018 4:53 pm Reply with quote

crissdee wrote:
I'm not saying you're wrong Bob, but isn't there a small chance that you are suggesting criminality where stupidity would also meet the facts?


Yes - absolutely. To call him stupid would to just piss into the ocean.

But to state categorically that he's NOT stupid - and that the only possible explanation for his actions would be a deliberate attempt on his part to get paedophiles released on to the streets - is a lot more difficult for him to deal with.

What can he say "erm - I'm not a paedophile supporter - I'm just stupid - er hang on a minute, I mean, I'm not stupid erm - I'll get back to you on that one"

 
Spud McLaren
1289955.  Thu Jul 12, 2018 6:22 pm Reply with quote

Any update on the petition, bob?

*********

Just spotted this from the Army Rumour Service (ArRSe) site, and I think I shall be taking up the suggestion -

Quote:
Tommy Robinson has been arrested for breach of the peace whilst filming the court case (from outside only)

Sign the petition to release him....

Petition unterschreiben

Quote:
No.

Quote:
Nope.

Quote:
No.

Quote:
Is this a new euphemism for taking a shit?
"I'll be with you in five, I just have to release Tommy Robinson"
PS: No.

 
brunel
1290102.  Sat Jul 14, 2018 2:18 am Reply with quote

So, it would seem that Mr Yaxley-Lennon's links to individuals who support the Trump administration has resulted in pressure from some of Trump's diplomats.

It is now being reported that Sam Brownback, the U.S. Ambassador for International Religious Freedom, told the British Ambassador that, if the British Government did not treat Mr Yaxley-Lennon in a more sympathetic light, the Trump administration might publicly criticise the way in which the British Government has treated his case.

It is also being reported that the Republican Congressman Paul Gosar is scheduled to speak in favour of Yaxley-Lennon at a rally by his supporters in London, which is expected to merge with another rally planned to support Trump's visit to the UK.
https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-usa-trump-britain-robinson/trumps-ambassador-lobbied-britain-on-behalf-of-jailed-right-wing-activist-tommy-robinson-idUKKBN1K331C

 
Jenny
1290133.  Sat Jul 14, 2018 9:11 am Reply with quote

That would be Sam Brownback the former economy-wrecking governor of Kansas, I presume?

 
suze
1290199.  Sun Jul 15, 2018 7:37 am Reply with quote

brunel wrote:
If the British Government did not treat Mr Yaxley-Lennon in a more sympathetic light, the Trump administration might publicly criticise the way in which the British Government has treated his case.


I doubt that even the Trump administration would actually do that, much as it doesn't mind if Mrs May's people think that it might.

Criticizing another major developed nation for following its proper legal processes really isn't done, and the US does not welcome other nations criticizing its gun laws or its eagerness to execute people.

In any case, even if Mr Trump were to say in "Release Mr Y-L now, or we drop the bomb", Mrs May wouldn't do it. She is well aware how unpopular Mr Trump is in Britain, even among her own party, and under no circumstances will she let herself be seen to do something just because he said so.

 
brunel
1290222.  Sun Jul 15, 2018 3:58 pm Reply with quote

Jenny wrote:
That would be Sam Brownback the former economy-wrecking governor of Kansas, I presume?

It is the same figure indeed, and his character does seem little changed between then and now.

suze wrote:
brunel wrote:
If the British Government did not treat Mr Yaxley-Lennon in a more sympathetic light, the Trump administration might publicly criticise the way in which the British Government has treated his case.


I doubt that even the Trump administration would actually do that, much as it doesn't mind if Mrs May's people think that it might.

Criticizing another major developed nation for following its proper legal processes really isn't done, and the US does not welcome other nations criticizing its gun laws or its eagerness to execute people.

In any case, even if Mr Trump were to say in "Release Mr Y-L now, or we drop the bomb", Mrs May wouldn't do it. She is well aware how unpopular Mr Trump is in Britain, even among her own party, and under no circumstances will she let herself be seen to do something just because he said so.

It might not be the done thing under conventional circumstances, but I think that few will dispute that Trump and his administration is conventional in any sense.

After all, in a period where there is infighting within the UK government, it would generally not be "the done thing" to publicly support those acting to destabilise the administration - but, with Trump, that is exactly what we got when we heard him offer public support for Boris Johnson as PM.

The idea, therefore, that his administration might publicly criticise the treatment of Mr Y-L, particularly in a period when his virulently Islamophobic ideas has given him quite a lot of links and support amongst the more extreme right in the US and with figures in Trump's administration, makes the idea of Trump's officials making such a move seem to be much more probable than might have been in the past.

Now, as you say, whether the UK government would do anything more than pay lip service to his comments is another matter - you would hope that was the case.

 
bobwilson
1291526.  Mon Jul 30, 2018 9:28 pm Reply with quote

Spud McLaren wrote:
Any update on the petition, bob?


Nope - but there's still time. I do need to find initially five voters who're willing to put their name and address to it - ordinarily not difficult, but as I said I'm currently absent and given that most of my acquaintances are even more laid back than I am that's not such an easy proposition.

 
'yorz
1292218.  Tue Aug 07, 2018 12:17 pm Reply with quote

 
tetsabb
1292219.  Tue Aug 07, 2018 12:22 pm Reply with quote

Excellent!

 
bobwilson
1293010.  Wed Aug 15, 2018 9:29 pm Reply with quote

OK - I'm back in the UK - but I need five actual names to begin a petition. Any volunteers? We can agree the wording between us - bearing in mind that we might well get a visit from Mr Robinson (he's done it before although only to some spotty-faced well-meaning but totally unprepared teenager).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjvKDAtu9Ns

Just letting you know what you might be in for (I'll happily tell him what a twat he is, and I'll put my name at the head of the petition to hopefully make him target me - but I don't want anyone going into this blind against this convicted football hooligan).

 

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