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1292830.  Tue Aug 14, 2018 11:19 am Reply with quote

DVD Smith wrote:
Is Europe a continent?

Traditionally yes, geologically no. Hence no.

DVD Smith wrote:
When referring to the music group, should it be "Eagles" or "The Eagles"?

Eagles. That's what it says on their own material, so that's their name.

DVD Smith wrote:
Does "Perth" refer more to the city in Scotland or the one in Australia?

The one in Scotland, because that's the original one. Needs a "if you are looking for..." link, though.

DVD Smith wrote:
How do you define "cuteness"?

Adherence to the baby schema.

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These questions and more feature in this list of some of Wikipedia's most infamous edit wars, including the notorious 40,000-word Star Trek Into Darkness debate over whether "into" should be capitalised.

Yes, because Into Darkness is technically a subheader and therefore a new line.



1294246.  Fri Aug 31, 2018 11:41 am Reply with quote

17th Century Quarrel: Musical Notation

Thomas Salmon (1648 - 1707), was a priest who sought to learn composition (1). It’s noted that he had difficulty learning the notation system that was used at the time, and it’s thought that this motivated his attempt to simplify the system (1). [Sure, Salmon, you n00b. You be that bold.]

February 1672: Salmon published An Essay to the Advancement of Musick
-Amongst other things, Salmon argued for the use of one clef
-According to Wardhaugh (2013), Salmon said there were nine clefs used at the time (but Green (1844) states that eight were used).
-In the essay, when referring to his proposed advancements, Salmon writes, “I have heard the most eminent, Master Theodorus Stefkins, and Mr. Matthew Lock [sic], (whose excellent compositions I can’t but tell the world, how I admire) affirm, we might use this way if we pleased…”. [so he kinda roped in this Locke guy]
-Matthew Locke (c.1621-23 - 1677) was indeed a prominent composer (1, 3)
-Salmon’s arguments had some supporters (even in the Royal Society) (4), but Locke opposed them, so in response…

April 1672: Locke wrote Observations Upon a Late Book
-Locke deemed Salmon’s proposed changes unworthy of serious rebuttal, so took to analysing them in such fine detail that it was absurd (1)
-Locke also included personal attacks on Salmon, and obscenity-filled passages (1)

June 1672: Salmon wrote A Vindication of an Essay
-Salmon responded by further explaining his proposals

July 1672: Locke wrote The Present Practice of Musick Vindicated
-Locke responded “very fiercely”, although did agree with Salmon about some other point (4)

-Salmon didn’t write about musical notation again (1).
-These texts by Salmon and Locke are generally referred to in negative language. Wardhaugh (2013) refers to it as a “pamphlet war” and a “polemic”, and Green (1844) reports that “Salmon was subjected to many virulent and illiberal attacks”, noting in particular this one from Locke.
-In the end, after Salmon’s death, the number of clefs were reduced to four, but Salmon’s influence is questionable (1). He also proposed a lot of other stuff that I don't understand.

(1) Wardhaugh, B. (ed) (2013). Thomas Salmon: Writings on Music: Volume I: An Essay to the Advancement of Musick and the Ensuing Controversy, 1672-3. Ashgate.

(2) Green, J. (1844). A Concise History of Musical Notation. London. [online] Available at

(3) Encyclopaedia Britannica, (2018). Matthew Locke. [online] Available at:

(4) Hauge, P. (1997). English music theory c.1590-c.1690 : the modal systems, changing concepts, and the development of new classification systems. (Unpublished Doctoral thesis, City University London)


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