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Spud McLaren
1278671.  Thu Mar 22, 2018 12:55 pm Reply with quote

Latest from the ectoplasm:

PDR wrote:
What we essentially have is Bob asserting his facts and me asserting mine. My facts are based on the course materials briefed over the years to allow us to understand and satisfy the various expressed requirements relatiung to making our products capable of operation in an NBC environment. I can’t “cite” the sources because they are (necessarily) classified. I don’t know what Bob’s sources are.

I only contributed to add information – people can make their own judgements.

1278867.  Fri Mar 23, 2018 3:15 pm Reply with quote

Didn't bob suggest his source was from the search engine that specialises in that sort of information - and his suggestion was the lack of information available from that particular source was the key point.

1280283.  Thu Apr 05, 2018 2:14 pm Reply with quote

There was an interesting remark made on the radio this morning relating to the latest episode in the claims made.
If the UK were to prosecute the Russian administration for attempted murder, the Russian administration would be found not guilty - because it cannot be proved beyond a reasonable doubt that they were responsible.
However, should the Russian administration sue the UK for defamation, then the Russians would lose - because the burden of proof is different. And using the balance of probabilities, the Russians were responsible. And that is about as far as you are able to take the accusations

1280287.  Thu Apr 05, 2018 2:20 pm Reply with quote

Sounds like a sound observation.

1280296.  Thu Apr 05, 2018 5:36 pm Reply with quote

It is an entirely sound observation, and it's more or less what Jeremy Corbyn has been saying all along. Boris chose to take a different line, and it's really a bit embarrassing when the Foreign Office has to delete its tweets because the Foreign Secretary had been speaking out of his hat.

The Guardian

1280303.  Thu Apr 05, 2018 6:09 pm Reply with quote


1280307.  Thu Apr 05, 2018 6:30 pm Reply with quote

I was being polite. Lord knows why I was being polite about that individual, but there we are.

You may, if you wish, substitute other places whence Boris may have been talking.

Prof Wind Up Merchant
1280387.  Fri Apr 06, 2018 2:30 pm Reply with quote

This is looking like we will never know the source of the Novichok that was used in the attack. Key information will be withheld in the investigation. This tit-for-tat diplomat expulsions will do nothing to help the case. This is all farcicle.

1280391.  Fri Apr 06, 2018 2:45 pm Reply with quote

And farcical as well. :-)

Spud McLaren
1280395.  Fri Apr 06, 2018 3:23 pm Reply with quote

A farcicle is a product of the Cold War.

1280434.  Sat Apr 07, 2018 4:50 am Reply with quote

Farcicle (adj) when you have to park your bike a mile away from the station

1281622.  Wed Apr 18, 2018 5:14 pm Reply with quote

There was something on the news earlier, which I may have misheard due to not being entirely sober. Tbh, I'm still not in a state to drive legally. Anywho, some Russian guy was talking about being involved in the production of novichok, and having had his hand contaminated. The action he took to clean it was to dip his hand in hydrchloric acid!!!!

What kind of sh*t are we talking about here when the preferred course of action in the event of contamination is to dip your f*cking hand in acid?

1281660.  Thu Apr 19, 2018 4:07 am Reply with quote

I think using acid as a handwash is surprisingly common among certain branches of the sciences. I certainly remember, when I was an undergraduate, talking to a chemistry student. He told me that the standard way to clean your hands after a day of handling potentially deadly chemicals was to wash with Sulphuric Acid.

Apparently you dip your hands into concentrated acid and then very quickly rinse them off under plenty of clean water. Not sure if that would still be allowed these days, but I can imagine that Russian health and safety is maybe not quite as strict as ours.

1281695.  Thu Apr 19, 2018 11:57 am Reply with quote

Ha! And yikes! I don't think that would be allowed any more, no.

Mind you, the good husband tells me that when he was a young man and still needed to prove to cricketing types that he was a useful fellow to have around, he'd often help out with the - dull but necessary - task of painting the lines on the pitch.

As a smoker in those days, once the work was done he'd light a cigarette and then go in search of something which would get the non-water-soluble paint off his hands. Since the heavy roller needed it, there was a can of a suitable solvent readily available. Petrol.

1281696.  Thu Apr 19, 2018 11:59 am Reply with quote

When I was doing Art A level in 1968 we did some silk screen printing, and the only thing we were given to wash off the printer ink from the equipment and our hands was turps. Don't think that would be allowed now!


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