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Princes and Princesses

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DVD Smith
1271479.  Sun Jan 21, 2018 11:03 am Reply with quote

One of the most badass princesses in history has to be Princess Pingyang of the Tang Dynasty in 7th-century China. She was the daughter of Li Yuan, a general in the Sui Dynasty, who chose to launch a rebellion against the current Emperor.

When word spread of a potential uprising by her father, she left the city and went into hiding. During her time away, she negotiated and did deals with various armies to aid in her father's rebellion, and by the time she returned to the city, she was commanding an army of over 70,000 men named the "Army of the Lady" or "Woman's Army".

With her army's aid, her father successfully overthrew the Emperor, creating the Tang Dynasty, who would rule for nearly three hundred years. She died in 623 AD, apparently in her early twenties - meaning she was most likely a teenager when she was commanding the 70,000-strong army in 617 AD. [1][2][3][4]

(I found all this out from Rejected Princesses, which I highly recommend. ^_^)

The story of Pingyang is one of several Chinese tales of strong female warriors. [5] The most famous one of course is the tale of Mulan, although much like Robin Hood she is generally assumed to be a legend rather than a historical figure. In the real non-Disney version of the story, Mulan is at war disguised as a man for 12 years, and in all that time her fellow soldiers never discovered that she was a woman. She eventually reveals her true identity to them upon her return from military service. [6]

In another version of the story, Mulan comes home from war to find her father has long since died and her mother has remarried. The Emperor then summons a devastated Mulan to be his concubine at the palace, and rather than go through with this she decides to kill herself. [7]

Speaking of Disney princesses, this has been mentioned before but for those who haven't seen it - in the original version of Sleeping Beauty, she isn't woken by true love's first kiss. Instead, the King finds her and rapes her while she's asleep; she then gives birth to twins, and she only wakes up when one of the babies sucks the enchanted splinter out of her finger in its attempt to find her nipple. [8]

1277461.  Tue Mar 13, 2018 8:59 pm Reply with quote

Good topic. I think it'd be interesting to find out just how many princes, princesses, kings and queens there are in the world today, and, possibly, the highest number there were in recorded history.

For clarity, we'd exclude "retired" monarchs, but include emperors and empresses (being fair to Japan and similar countries). Basically, people on the throne, or inline for the throne without somebody dying (i.e. not yet determined who of their generation will take the throne).

Also, what's the origin of the fairy princess cliche?

Sadly, scripts for series P are probably already finalized since filming begins soon.

1277493.  Wed Mar 14, 2018 7:07 am Reply with quote

Already halfway through filming, in fact! Bit earlier this year

1277503.  Wed Mar 14, 2018 8:51 am Reply with quote

How about R for rampaging royals?

edit: or even rebellious royals?

1277528.  Wed Mar 14, 2018 1:01 pm Reply with quote

Randy Scandi Royals?


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