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JAM MAN 12
1275591.  Mon Feb 26, 2018 5:51 am Reply with quote

Paul Dennis, standing as the Trade Unionist and Socialist Coalition candidate in local elections in 2015, somehow managed to win zero votes. As John Oliver pointed out on a show recently (on Italian elections) no votes means you don't even vote for yourself! I wonder how many other instances there are.

To be fair, Paul Dennis did claim that he and his wife voted for him and that someone must have miscounted the votes.

See:
https://www.indy100.com/article/socialist-candidate-somehow-gets-zero-votes-in-election--gyeeBImFmWb

 
GuyBarry
1275607.  Mon Feb 26, 2018 7:29 am Reply with quote

JAM MAN 12 wrote:
Paul Dennis, standing as the Trade Unionist and Socialist Coalition candidate in local elections in 2015, somehow managed to win zero votes. As John Oliver pointed out on a show recently (on Italian elections) no votes means you don't even vote for yourself!


To stand for council elections in England and Wales, you have to be a local government elector for the local authority area in which you wish to stand.
There's no requirement to be registered in the same council ward as you're standing in, so it's quite possible that he might not have been eligible to vote for himself (although in this case he claims that he did); he might have voted in some other ward of the same council area. Quite a lot of elected councillors don't live in their own wards.

To stand for Parliament, you don't even have to be a registered elector in the UK. (I was quite surprised to learn this.)

 
suze
1275647.  Mon Feb 26, 2018 12:47 pm Reply with quote

The experience of Paul Dennis in Rainham North is, I am afraid, just one more example of the utter incompetence of Medway Council.

TUSC fielded half a dozen candidates for various wards on Medway Council in 2015, and while none was elected or ever expected to be elected, the lowest vote figure for any of the others was 67.

Rainham North is not a ward which favours the left, and Mr Dennis accepts that he may not have secured as many votes as 67. But he is fairly sure that he knows of about thirty people who voted for him, and would expect there to be at least a few more that he doesn't know about.

His claim is that a bundle of fifty ballot papers has disappeared somewhere, and one has to say that it does seem reasonably likely to be correct. (He does not claim that they "were disappeared" deliberately, although others in TUSC have done.)

Mr Dennis cannot prove his assertion, but while he and his TUSC comrades were investigating this matter they discovered something else. In a ward which returns two councillors, no one person is allowed to nominate more than two candidates - and yet one person in the Rainham North ward nominated three. The same name and address appears beside the names of both UKIP candidates and also one of the two Conservative candidates.

The woman who did the multiple nominating accepts that she did it and says that it was a "mistake", while Medway Council completely failed to notice when it should have done. There is little doubt that if this matter were taken to the High Court the entire election in this ward would be ruled invalid. But TUSC couldn't afford to bring such an action, and the Conservatives who "won" the election refused to stand down and cause a new election - even though one of them was never validly nominated.

Immediate local press coverage
Subsequent local press coverage

 
suze
1275648.  Mon Feb 26, 2018 12:59 pm Reply with quote

GuyBarry wrote:
To stand for Parliament, you don't even have to be a registered elector in the UK. (I was quite surprised to learn this.)


So was I. I knew that one need not be a British citizen to vote in British elections, or even to stand in them. But I did not know that you don't even need to live here.

What I do not know is whether this has "always" been the case, or whether it is a consequence of the Good Friday Agreement. Might it perhaps be that the GFA means that people who live in Ireland have to be allowed to stand for election in Northern Ireland, and so they are allowed to stand for election everywhere in the UK?

I don't know the answer to that question, but I did discover something else. According to §1.5 of this document, a member of Dáil Éireann is not debarred from standing for election to the House of Commons for a Northern Ireland seat. But according to §1.5 of this document, that same member of Dáil Éireann is debarred from standing for election to the House of Commons for a seat in England, Scotland, or Wales.

Whether this is actually true, or whether one or other PDF is just plain wrong, is another thing that I don't know.

 
'yorz
1275649.  Mon Feb 26, 2018 1:13 pm Reply with quote

suze wrote:
I knew that one need not be a British citizen to vote in British elections

I was only allowed to vote in local elections.

 
suze
1275657.  Mon Feb 26, 2018 1:32 pm Reply with quote

You would also have been allowed to vote in elections for the European Parliament, and in elections for Police and Crime Commissioners. Had you lived in Northern Ireland, Scotland, or Wales, you could also have voted in elections for their assemblies and parliament.

As a Dutch person you could not vote in elections to the House of Commons, or in the EU referendum - but Commonwealth and Irish citizens legally resident in the UK could.

 

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