# O Series: 1 - Ologies

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 1257175.  Sun Oct 22, 2017 9:59 am I like the way she wanted to mount the guy who wrote that book, and I don't think she meant put him in a stamp album! a few hours later Thinking on this, does pi never have "0" as a digit?* If so, how did he find a word of no letters? Or differentiate them from just a space between words? *This seems unlikely to me, but there may be some abstruse mathmo reason why this is so.

1257207.  Sun Oct 22, 2017 1:54 pm

 Bondee wrote: I'm not a fan of Claudia, but I thought she was brilliant in this.

She must be annoying the rest of the time, because she didn't create a fan here, even though she was funny in this episode.

1257211.  Sun Oct 22, 2017 2:22 pm

 crissdee wrote: Thinking on this, does pi never have "0" as a digit?* If so, how did he find a word of no letters? Or differentiate them from just a space between words?

Are we talking about Mike Keith and his writing in "Pilish" here? I was looking this up for my post on "Piphilology" recently. Here's how he manages:

 Quote: In Standard Pilish, each word of n letters represents (1) The digit n if n<10 (2) The digit 0 if n=10 (3) Two consecutive digits if n>10 (for example, a 12-letter word represents the digits 1,2)

Did that really come up on the programme? I must be psychic - I had no idea!

1257221.  Sun Oct 22, 2017 3:37 pm

 crissdee wrote: Thinking on this, does pi never have "0" as a digit?* If so, how did he find a word of no letters?

It does, but the first zero does not appear until the 32nd decimal place.

3.14159265358979323846264338327950

 1257223.  Sun Oct 22, 2017 3:46 pm Thanks GB! That was indeed the man who Claudia wanted to put in her "stamp album".Last edited by crissdee on Sun Oct 22, 2017 3:48 pm; edited 1 time in total

 1257224.  Sun Oct 22, 2017 3:47 pm And as Mike Keith points out, every π mnemonic written prior to the 1990s stops shortly before the 33rd digit.

1257646.  Tue Oct 24, 2017 8:51 pm

 suze wrote: It does, but the first zero does not appear until the 32nd decimal place.

At which point it's moot.

Unless you want to calculate the size (or other geometric datum) of the universe to sub-atomic accuracy.

(/tangent)

But yeah, it was an awesome episode. Not sure if that's cause it's the first new one I've seen in forever or if it was actually a great show.

Is it just me, or was Alan quieter (less attention grabby) than usual?

Also, what's up with the sexism/"regime change" gag? It's come up often enough I wonder if there isn't some grain of truth buried in the black hole of ignorance that is my knowledge of the UK.

 1257664.  Wed Oct 25, 2017 2:34 am I think Alan acts more 'foolish' when the other guests are quieter and scared of setting off the klaxon. When you have Bill Bailey and Phill Jupitus as panelists, there's no need to do that :P

1258018.  Thu Oct 26, 2017 11:49 am

 fwk wrote: I think Alan acts more 'foolish' when the other guests are quieter and scared of setting off the klaxon. When you have Bill Bailey and Phill Jupitus as panelists, there's no need to do that :P

hmmm, maybe. However, he's got a huge diva streak. Remember the first episodes of the N series when he whined about the audience not applauding a tongue twister, or his joke? Or when Sandi wasn't impressed with one of his answers. I think this is the only episode where Alan's been quiet for more than five minutes. Usually by that time he's playing with the props, or otherwise clamoring for attention.

 1259578.  Sat Nov 04, 2017 9:01 pm When they mention lifting the sub Alan seemed somewhat troubled by the idea that they could have (but didn't) drop the nuclear torpedoes. What most people don't know is that damaging a nuclear warhead makes it LESS dangerous. If the explosives aren't arranged exactly right, you don't get a nuclear explosion. Worst case scenario, some radioactive material gets spread over the blast area. And, given that this was underwater (which blocks the dangerous radiation surprisingly well), even that wouldn't be that dangerous.

 1261125.  Fri Nov 10, 2017 8:43 pm Oh dear, I clearly haven't been paying attention. Four episodes into O, and only now I notice that Sandi has the title of Oversygeplejeske in the end credits of all the O episodes.

 1262916.  Wed Nov 22, 2017 12:02 am couple things that have come up in subsequent rewatchings: 1. When Bill talks about the drug sub being found on the coast of Devon did anybody else slightly misunderstand the "went on a 54 mile walk" part and think "that's one hell of a nose, to smell something that far away"? 2. Why do we call them gastroenterologists when "my guts are knotted up something fierce" is the problem we want them to cure? You wouldn't go to a clown (or other balloon animal maker) for help untangling an extension cord, would you?

 1276971.  Sat Mar 10, 2018 6:03 am I spotted a mistake: In the episode Sandy/the script said: "Agnoiology: The study of things we don't know. The term was coined by James Fraser, professor of moral philosophy at St. Andrews (1808-1864). He claimed that there is more ignorance than knowledge, so therefore ignorance needs to be studied." Being interested in uncertainty I tried to find out more about it. However, that was no sinecure. There are several James Frasers on Wikipedia, but none of them is about ignorance and none of them lived 1808-1864. Moreover, the same or a similar field of interest is also called Agnotology, brought to prominence by a Dr. Proctor (!). Then suddenly I saw the concentric circles, also mentioned in the episode, ascribed to James Fraser. That would be a coincidence, wouldn't it? But it isn't. There is a philopsopher James Frederick Ferrier, indeed 1808-1864, indeed from St. Andrews, that coined the term. So we've got two James' in one episode, one of them spoiling over into the wrong phrase.

 1276976.  Sat Mar 10, 2018 6:12 am BTW Alan's suggestion about sheep for agnoiology wasn't that far sought, since, for example, famous by Mozart's requiem, Agnus Dei is a well know religious term, meaning Lamb of God. Agnus -> Agnoiology.

 1277015.  Sat Mar 10, 2018 1:22 pm Hi NIQI and welcome to QI, where we like a good quibble :-)

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