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Celebaelin
1024137.  Mon Sep 23, 2013 9:10 am Reply with quote

And they are responsible for rainfall... maybe.

http://metro.co.uk/2013/09/19/british-scientists-claim-to-have-discovered-alien-life-in-wakefield-4056132/

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/science-news/10321227/Alien-life-found-living-in-Earths-atmosphere-claims-scientist.html

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"The particles are very clean," added Prof Wainwright. "They don't have any dust attached to them, which again suggests they're not coming to earth. Similarly, cosmic dust isn't stuck to them, so we think they came from an aquatic environment, and the most obvious aquatic environment in space is a comet.

"They're very unusual beasts, not your normal kind of life from earth."

The organisms are probably not alive, but, excitingly, probably do contain DNA. Similar ones harvested during an earlier experiment have contained the chemical, which is one of the fundamental building blocks of life on earth.

The fact that they contain DNA is probably one of the most exciting aspects to this discovery, as it is a big hint that life on earth may itself have extraterrestrial origins.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/the-truth-is-out-there-british-scientists-claim-to-have-found-proof-of-alien-life-8826690.html

ITN report on YouTube

 
Posital
1024265.  Mon Sep 23, 2013 6:25 pm Reply with quote

Someone somewhere suggested that Douglas Adams was right - "Due to a terrible miscalculation of scale the entire battle fleet was swallowed by a small dog."

 
Boris
1024327.  Tue Sep 24, 2013 6:03 am Reply with quote

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gruff5
1024334.  Tue Sep 24, 2013 6:30 am Reply with quote

It came from outer space ...


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Celebaelin
1024336.  Tue Sep 24, 2013 6:32 am Reply with quote

Whilst I'm not claiming any validity for these assertions of extra-terrestrial diatoms I note that the points examined in your link are a bit fuzzy themselves. For instance

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"On one stub was discovered part of a diatom which, we assume, is clear enough for experts on diatom taxonomy to precisely identify."

That implies very strongly they didnít ask an expert in diatoms to look at their sample. Thatís bizarre. If I were claiming this were an ET plant, thatís the very first thing Iíd do!

Well, does it? Or does it imply that they asked experts in diatoms to look at it but no-one could identify it - as would likely be the case if it was extra-terrestrial in origin.

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The diatom looks very like known species on Earth (they comment on this fact in the paper, actually). How would it get up to the stratosphere?


I'm all for skepticism - there always are and always should be naysayers to any new idea - but the naysayers are not always right and their arguments are not necessarily any better than those of the people they oppose; time will tell.

 
gruff5
1024337.  Tue Sep 24, 2013 6:32 am Reply with quote

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Celebaelin
1024338.  Tue Sep 24, 2013 6:38 am Reply with quote

That's not dog, it's imitation.

 
PDR
1024343.  Tue Sep 24, 2013 7:07 am Reply with quote

Don't tell Nick Griffin - he'll be proposing brigades of prisoners an benefit claimants to form work parties to round up all these Diatoms and send them back to Diatomia...

PDR

 
Boris
1024376.  Tue Sep 24, 2013 8:41 am Reply with quote

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Dr Fell
1024458.  Tue Sep 24, 2013 1:30 pm Reply with quote

These well known scientists should know better.

There are several putative mechanisms for the transport of micro-organisms into the atmosphere at these heights - and they have been recorded at these altitues before (spookily Griffin, 2004, Aerobiologia 20, 135 - 140 "Terrestrial microorganisms at an altitude of 20,000 m in Earth's atmosphere").

Marine algae (e.g. diatoms) produce dimethylsulfide (DMS) in response to surface warming by sunlight, which makes them bouyant enough to be transported into the atmosphere - where they form cloud condesation nucleii - thus producing clouds, and cooling the planet - a proposed "Gaian" mechanism:

http://www.csa.com/discoveryguides/dimethyl/overview.php

What's more, as any damn fule scientists know, if they wanted to test the null-hypothesis they should send their next balloon up when there isn't a comet due.

Shoddy, shoddy work.

 
chrisboote
1024500.  Wed Sep 25, 2013 1:05 am Reply with quote

Dr Fell wrote:
they should send their next balloon up when there isn't a comet due.

Well, technically, isn't there always at least one comet 'due' ? ;-)

 
Dr Fell
1024873.  Thu Sep 26, 2013 2:42 pm Reply with quote

No.

 
Jenny
1024960.  Thu Sep 26, 2013 9:38 pm Reply with quote

Due as in "the next one will be here in 64 years' time"?

 
chrisboote
1024983.  Fri Sep 27, 2013 4:26 am Reply with quote

Jenny wrote:
Due as in "the next one will be here in 64 years' time"?

Yup 8-)

 
Dr Fell
1038597.  Sat Nov 30, 2013 5:29 pm Reply with quote

So put it up in 64 years time. Due in the sense of planning a balloon ascent with the requisite equipment, with the funding in place first.

 

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