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crissdee
1191359.  Mon May 09, 2016 9:18 am Reply with quote

Something I learned recently which I am ashamed as a "cockernee" to admit I had never known before, is the full lyrics to "Oranges and Lemons", more properly known as "The Great Bells of Bow".



The Great Bells of Bow

"Gay go up and gay go down
To Ring the Bells of London Town
"Oranges and Lemons" say the Bells of St. Clements 
"Bullseyes and Targets" say the Bells of St. Margaret's 
"Brickbats and Tiles" say the Bells of St. Giles
"Halfpence and Farthings" say the Bells of St. Martin's 
"Pancakes and Fritters" say the Bells of St. Peter's
"Two Sticks and an Apple" say the Bells of Whitechapel
"Maids in white aprons" say the Bells at St. Katherine's
"Pokers and Tongs" say the Bells of St. John's
"Kettles and Pans" say the Bells of St. Anne's 
"Old Father Baldpate" say the slow Bells of Aldgate 
"You owe me Ten Shillings" say the Bells of St. Helen's 
"When will you Pay me?" say the Bells of Old Bailey 
"When I grow Rich" say the Bells of Shoreditch 
"Pray when will that be?" say the Bells of Stepney 
"I do not know" say the Great Bell of Bow 
Gay go up and gay go down
To Ring the Bells of London Town

 
swot
1191360.  Mon May 09, 2016 9:29 am Reply with quote

We always ended that with:

"Here comes the candle to light you to bed
And here comes the chopper to chop off your head"

 
crissdee
1191371.  Mon May 09, 2016 11:43 am Reply with quote

We used to do that too. Apparently, (according to Wiki) that is part of the game associated with the song, but not part of the song.

 
Awitt
1191411.  Mon May 09, 2016 3:22 pm Reply with quote

So did my lot, even in Australia.

 
franticllama
1191415.  Mon May 09, 2016 3:47 pm Reply with quote

We must have had a bastardized version of that. We started with 'Oranges and Lemons, the bells of St Clements
Something something something*
Here comes the candle to light you to bed
Here comes the chopper to chop of your head'

*For the life of me I can't remember what, but the song above doesn't ring any bells

 
suze
1191418.  Mon May 09, 2016 4:06 pm Reply with quote

There was a version of that song in the nursery rhymes book that I had forty or so years ago. The way I knew it, the lyrics were the same as those given on Wikipedia, so it may well be that my book was also the work of Mr and Mrs Opie.

I learned something from that Wikipedia article. I'd always supposed that the Great Bell at Bow was in the East End, but in fact it refers to St Mary-le-Bow in the City.

 
nitwit02
1191435.  Mon May 09, 2016 7:53 pm Reply with quote

In 1944 Glenn Miller heard Oranges & Lemons while in London and had his arrangers turn it into a piece for his AAF Band.

Apparently, his recording was used by the BBC to open up the Light Programme (I think at 7 AM) in the mornings and continued until a year or two after the War.

I'd be interested if anyone can confirm that. (By the way, I understand that the lyrics were a little different in his version).

 
AlmondFacialBar
1191444.  Tue May 10, 2016 1:32 am Reply with quote

nitwit02 wrote:
In 1944 Glenn Miller heard Oranges & Lemons while in London and had his arrangers turn it into a piece for his AAF Band.

Apparently, his recording was used by the BBC to open up the Light Programme (I think at 7 AM) in the mornings and continued until a year or two after the War.

I'd be interested if anyone can confirm that. (By the way, I understand that the lyrics were a little different in his version).


Not the Beeb, but an American station. I'll go find the footage later.

:-)

AlmondFacialBar

 
crissdee
1191449.  Tue May 10, 2016 2:08 am Reply with quote

My mum, who owns just about every piece of music ever recorded by Mr Miller, thinks she has it somewhere.

 
nitwit02
1191584.  Tue May 10, 2016 7:48 pm Reply with quote

Thanks folks - I'm looking forward to your findings.

 
bemahan
1191598.  Wed May 11, 2016 1:49 am Reply with quote

This is the version we used to sing, ending with the chopping off your head bit that swot mentioned.
"Oranges and Lemons" say the Bells of St. Clements 
"You owe me five Farthings" say the Bells of St. Martin's  
"When will you Pay me?" say the Bells of Old Bailey 
"When I grow Rich" say the Bells of Shoreditch 
"When will that be?" say the Bells of Stepney 
"I do not know" say the Great Bell of Bow.

It's all about the money, money.

Edit: just seen the link in suze's post.

 
PDR
1191678.  Wed May 11, 2016 11:46 am Reply with quote

Today I learned that my DH Lawrence joke was too obscure even for this place...

PDR

 
Stefan Linnemann
1191691.  Wed May 11, 2016 12:28 pm Reply with quote

I feel with you.

 
Alfred E Neuman
1191698.  Wed May 11, 2016 12:38 pm Reply with quote

PDR wrote:
Today I learned that my DH Lawrence joke was too obscure even for this place...

PDR


Don't overlook the possibility that it just wasn't funny.

 
PDR
1191716.  Wed May 11, 2016 2:20 pm Reply with quote

Nah - it was very funny. Trust me in this.

PDR

 

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