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suze
1381298.  Tue May 11, 2021 11:29 am Reply with quote

Alexander Howard wrote:
Perhaps, as one MEP from those parts memorably said, "Messieurs, nous avons besoin de la sagesse normande".


Sadly, this is probably apocryphal.

The claim that this remark was made in the European Parliament can be traced back to 1999, when Lord Harrison of Chester (Lab) claimed in the House of Lords that he had heard it himself while he was an MEP, as he was from 1989 to 1999. The anecdote has been repeated at intervals ever since, but people who have gone looking have been unable to find the claimed remark in CRE (the Hansard of the European Parliament).

Incidentally, Lord Harrison was speaking in the debate on the Queen's Speech for that session. He was responding to Lord Fraser of Carmyllie (Con), who had found it necessary to comment on Her Majesty splitting an infinitive in her Speech. This wasn't quite the end of the world as we know it, but Lord Fraser assuredly didn't like it.

I didn't notice any split infinitives in today's Queen's Speech, but HM did sound rather frail, and jumped a line a couple of times. While this is probably lèse majesté, is it perhaps time for her to delegate that particular duty?

 
CB27
1382619.  Wed Jun 02, 2021 1:09 pm Reply with quote

So, hmmm, Tim Martin wants to make it easier for EU nationals to come work in the UK because British people don't want to work for him.

No one could have predicted that, except everyone who predicted that would probably happen...

 
Alexander Howard
1382697.  Fri Jun 04, 2021 7:09 am Reply with quote

Liz Truss has signed a trade deal with Liechtenstein! Now we're in the big league.

 
PDR
1382707.  Fri Jun 04, 2021 8:17 am Reply with quote

...and Norway, so supplies of Jarlsberg are now secure.

Phew!

PDR

 
PDR
1383721.  Wed Jun 23, 2021 10:10 am Reply with quote

The real Brexit Dividend?



PDR

 
tetsabb
1383919.  Sat Jun 26, 2021 3:41 am Reply with quote

Oh no, poor things!

PDR, how are you coping?

 
PDR
1386729.  Wed Aug 04, 2021 11:49 am Reply with quote

tetsabb wrote:
Oh no, poor things!

PDR, how are you coping?


That only affects those misguided employers who hire their staff on the open market. I have mine shipped directly from siberian training camps in sealed toxic waste containers to minimise all that red tape and lefty human rights malarky.

PDR

 
PDR
1386734.  Wed Aug 04, 2021 12:00 pm Reply with quote

Meanwhile in other news - I raised this issue a while back but the usual Brexit sycophants just jeered and said it was "project fear":

Post-Brexit exclusion frustrates UK pilots as carriers seek EASA-licensed crews.

Who'd have thought it - they were wrong.

Again...

PDR

 
suze
1388694.  Wed Sep 01, 2021 11:40 am Reply with quote

Wetherspoon's is running out of beer.

Tim Martin attempts to blame this on "industrial action" - but this is quite simply a lie; there is no strike at the company where he asserts that there is.

So come on Mr Martin. Come on here and admit that it is, at least in part, your fault.

 
Alexander Howard
1388702.  Wed Sep 01, 2021 12:43 pm Reply with quote

There is a shortage of lorry drivers all across Europe. It is worst in Germany, apparently. This might be a good economic sign, if it means that there are better paid jobs for lorry drivers to do.

Pay the drivers better and the problem could be solved, even if it means prices go up. It would help if anyone can make lorries that are not so punishing to drive, Elon.

 
Jenny
1388704.  Wed Sep 01, 2021 12:46 pm Reply with quote

Alexander Howard wrote:
It is wurst in Germany, apparently.


FTFY

 
barbados
1388721.  Wed Sep 01, 2021 11:56 pm Reply with quote

Alexander Howard wrote:
There is a shortage of lorry drivers all across Europe. It is worst in Germany, apparently. This might be a good economic sign, if it means that there are better paid jobs for lorry drivers to do.

Pay the drivers better and the problem could be solved, even if it means prices go up. It would help if anyone can make lorries that are not so punishing to drive, Elon.

And that is what the industrial dispute was about. A couple of weeks of working to rule seems to have done a bit of a trick, at least it prevented an escalation in the dispute with the strikes postponed.

 
Jenny
1389603.  Sun Sep 12, 2021 8:44 am Reply with quote

So what happened to Johnson's 'guarantee' of maintaining the 100 million euro annual payment to Cornwall after Brexit? Now appears to be £3m

 
Brock
1389825.  Tue Sep 14, 2021 11:55 am Reply with quote

From the Financial Times:

https://www.ft.com/content/e32dda1b-7dbe-454e-ab32-3d80604df431

Quote:
Boris Johnson’s government has been forced to delay imposing checks on EU goods entering the UK until mid-2022 as it attempts to stop Brexit further exacerbating supply chain problems.

The move means British exports to the EU are subject to full checks, while imports into the UK by European competitors are mostly free of paperwork and border controls.

“It’s ironic,” said one EU diplomat. “They talked about taking back control, but they are letting products into Britain without any controls at all. That’s fine with us.”

 
PDR
1390462.  Tue Sep 21, 2021 7:03 am Reply with quote

Meanwhile do you remember how the Brexit Mendocracy promised us a rapid, privileged trade deal with the USA and targeted any suggestion to the contrary with the full Project Jeer treatment?

The Grauniad wrote:
It turns out the UK has ended up near the [url=https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/apr/22/barack-obama-brexit-uk-back-of-queue-for-trade-talks“back of the queue”[/url] after all. For five years now, since the referendum, Brexiters have been talking up the prospects of a free trade deal with the US, which, according to the enthusiasts, was going to offer huge benefits to the UK and was just around the corner. Shortly after becoming prime minister in 2019, Boris Johnson even said he would like to see it concluded within a year.

But now Johnson has admitted, in terms, that Barack Obama was right, and that a trade deal with the UK is not a priority for Washington. Asked when it was happening, Johnson told reporters travelling with him to the US: “I wouldn’t hold your breath.”


Brexiters lie and fail to deliver - who'd have thought it...

PDR

 

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