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Jenny
1170064.  Sat Jan 16, 2016 2:20 pm Reply with quote

Hi n3tman - I couldn't follow your links because they're blocked for copyright reasons here in the USA, but I found the episode on https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwIvM8hHouA.

As I'm a moderator I have access to your post, so I just edited it to show where I think your transcript needs to be changed - I've put the changes in red so they're obvious. In a couple of places I've explained an expression, so just read through it.

Let me know if you have any other problems and I'll try to help.

 
n3tman
1170132.  Sat Jan 16, 2016 9:42 pm Reply with quote

Oh, Jenny, thank you so much! This is superb. And the explanations are very helpful too!

I'm going to continue transcribing now, and I will use your link to mention the exact times.

 
n3tman
1170135.  Sun Jan 17, 2016 12:31 am Reply with quote

https://youtu.be/JwIvM8hHouA?t=1036 (17:16)

And otherwise there are various other tricks you can use.
Why smoke them? Or this was before people were worrying about lung cancer?
I know if you did smoke it a lot it wasn't about lung cancer, it was about the fact that it could make people breathless.

https://youtu.be/JwIvM8hHouA?t=1058 (17:38)

Shoot yourself in the ear.
I would say that's a difficult one to get exactly right.
Well...
In your foot the worst is you gonna get is the bullet in the ground, but I think this just...
I think I can blow my own ear off.
I think it's odd how you can paralyse your arm by bandaging a pebble on your funny bone. (Alan is looking at the pictures on the wall behind the panel which shows a pebble bandaged onto the elbow - the point of the elbow is called the funny bone in England, because if you bang it it makes your arm tingle.)

https://youtu.be/JwIvM8hHouA?t=1219 (20:19)

And so when the doctor asks for the sputum you give them that.

https://youtu.be/JwIvM8hHouA?t=1230 (20:30)

Or perhaps he just would rather not do the analysis.

https://youtu.be/JwIvM8hHouA?t=1248 (20:48)

(In case you need an explanation, knob cheese is a slang word for smegma).

Yeah, but the thing is, he's gonna know, he's gonna see the crackers falling out your pocket.
The what?
Jacobs crackers (these are a popular brand of crackers to eat with cheese), you can't just eat it straight, it looks bad. (i.e. eating cheese without crackers looks bad)
"Other crackers are available."
This is the worst conversation I've ever been in ever.


Last edited by n3tman on Sun Jan 17, 2016 3:57 am; edited 4 times in total

 
n3tman
1170137.  Sun Jan 17, 2016 2:04 am Reply with quote

https://youtu.be/JwIvM8hHouA?t=1484 (24:44)

There are games described of that involve words like "bezique" and there are games described of that involve words like "tits".
You know, I do both.
Maybe it's some things that you look back at scoreboard and you go
"Can't we really aren't the sophisticated people we're talking about?"


https://youtu.be/JwIvM8hHouA?t=1507 (25:07)

- But if got on two trouble words.
- Yeah, that would be the key, isn't it? It would be fantastic.

https://youtu.be/JwIvM8hHouA?t=1572 (26:12)

"Quick, quick! The criminals are getting away, release the iron!"
"Darling, I've gotta get to the that formal occasion and the next while, all in the rusher.."

https://youtu.be/JwIvM8hHouA?t=1597 (26:37)

Happy dressers, they only have an iron.
To remind her of the attention ... of our married life.

"Here's an iron. Now go walk the dog of my top ..."

 
n3tman
1170138.  Sun Jan 17, 2016 2:43 am Reply with quote

Missed this part at the beginning:

https://youtu.be/JwIvM8hHouA?t=270 (4:30)

In a case we feel smart the British are called, what do you think that was?
Crikey.

"We didn't even have one" is the answer.
Basically, it was a bicycle lock key
and to arm the weapon you remove two screws from the panel
like having in the back of the remote control device, you know that?
And this reveals the sequence of dials, but this wasn't codes.
It was many settings, whether you wanted the bomb for an air burst or a ground burst.
You just do it really like that.
So Howard Wilson had to undo the back of a panel and then...?
How do you think they brought politicians into that's all? It was just flight left Tendant Sanderson.
Oh he just sets off. When the moon took him.
They should've done it like you know the top of a tin of ham.
Farewell, that one was good to end, but never mind, lovely ham sandwich.

Absolutely. That would have been the answer.

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I hope that's not too much. I just don't have any friends who are native English speakers...

 
n3tman
1170141.  Sun Jan 17, 2016 3:37 am Reply with quote

The very last bit:

https://youtu.be/JwIvM8hHouA?t=2431 (40:31)

but in fact it always has been the case that far on a way the most money we give is to human charities

https://youtu.be/JwIvM8hHouA?t=2442 (40:42)

Some children riding on the backs of sick donkeys.

https://youtu.be/JwIvM8hHouA?t=2453 (40:53)

I'm sorry, I though you said they amalgamated animals to the old people.
What you've created there is a sort of... You've got your guns.
It's gonna advance and they called "old deers".

Basically, your ... gets the most but massively in front. Children charities do well, and obviously some of those are also check cancer related but not as well as the National Trust.

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That's all, if you can help me with it, I can finally make the last subs that are missing out of all the 13 seasons of the show. I will share them with everybody after that, of course.

 
suze
1170189.  Sun Jan 17, 2016 10:33 am Reply with quote

I'll have a go at one of these. I may get to another one later, unless I'm beaten to it.

This particular episode is a tricky one for people who are not British, because of the presence of Dara Briain and Ross Noble. Both of these gentlemen have accents which even British people sometime struggle to understand. Dara is from Ireland and Ross is from Newcastle upon Tyne in the north east of England, and in both of these regions English is spoken with a strong regional accent.

n3tman wrote:
https://youtu.be/JwIvM8hHouA?t=1484 (24:44)


Dara is talking here about the board game Scrabble (Эрудит in Russia, I believe).

He says "There are games of Scrabble that involve words like 'bezique', and there are games of Scrabble that involve words like 'tits'."

He is right in suggesting that bezique scores well in a game of Scrabble. Rude words are allowed in Scrabble, and some players find it funny to put them onto the board; that's what he meant by tits.

I'm not sure what the first part of his next sentence is because he's being talked over, but it ends with "You look at the Scrabble board and go 'God, we really aren't the sophisticated people we thought we were'".

Quote:
https://youtu.be/JwIvM8hHouA?t=1507 (25:07)


Clarkson says "If you get it on two treble words".

They're still talking about Scrabble. Eight squares on the Scrabble board are designated as "triple word score" (treble and triple are synonyms, but Scrabble actually uses triple). If you place a tile on such a square you get three times the usual score for that word. It is possible to place a word such that it hits two triple word score squares, and in that case you get nine times the score.

Quote:
https://youtu.be/JwIvM8hHouA?t=1572 (26:12)


You have this one about right. The iron is the one of the pieces in the board game Monopoly.

Ross: Quick, quick! The criminals are getting away, release the iron!"
Dara: Darling, I've gotta get to that formal occasion in the next while. (Not sure what he says after that.)

"In the next while" is an Irish expression that isn't used much in England. It means "soon".

Quote:
https://youtu.be/JwIvM8hHouA?t=1597 (26:37)


Dara says:

[not sure], they only have an iron.
To remind you of the indentured servitude of our married life.
"Here's an iron. Now go walk the dog [not sure]"

We might need an Irish person to tell us just what the first and last parts of Dara's contribution are. Unfortunately, I'm not sure that we have any Irish people around here.

 
swot
1170194.  Sun Jan 17, 2016 10:57 am Reply with quote

n3tman wrote:
The very last bit:

https://youtu.be/JwIvM8hHouA?t=2431 (40:31)

but in fact it always has been the case that far on a way the most money we give is to human charities




That should be 'by far and away [...]'. It's a stronger way of saying 'by far', which in this context means that human charities receive a great deal more money.

 
Jenny
1170217.  Sun Jan 17, 2016 12:43 pm Reply with quote

n3tman wrote:
Missed this part at the beginning:

https://youtu.be/JwIvM8hHouA?t=270 (4:30)

In a case we feel smart the British are called, what do you think that was?
Crikey.

"We didn't even have one" is the answer.
Basically, it was a bicycle lock key
and to arm the weapon you remove two screws from the panel
like having in the back of the remote control device, you know that?
And this reveals the sequence of dials, but this wasn't codes.
It was many settings, whether you wanted the bomb for an air burst or a ground burst.
You just do it really like that.
So Harold Wilson had to undo the back of a panel and then...? (Harold Wilson was the prime minister at the time under discussion).
How do you think they brought politicians into that's all? It was just Flight Lieutenant Sanderson.
Oh he just sets off. When the mood took him.
They should've done it like you know the top of a tin of ham.
Farewell, that one was good to the end, but never mind, lovely ham sandwich.

Absolutely. That would have been the answer.

(Tins of ham in the UK at one time (not sure about now) were rectangular and were opened by winding a tag of metal onto a key that was stuck to the tin, so it tore the metal off and wound it into a roll.)

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I hope that's not too much. I just don't have any friends who are native English speakers...

 
Jenny
1170219.  Sun Jan 17, 2016 12:51 pm Reply with quote

n3tman wrote:
The very last bit:

https://youtu.be/JwIvM8hHouA?t=2431 (40:31)

but in fact it always has been the case that far and away the most money we give is to human charities

https://youtu.be/JwIvM8hHouA?t=2442 (40:42)

To children riding on the backs of sick donkeys.

https://youtu.be/JwIvM8hHouA?t=2453 (40:53)

I'm sorry, I thought you said they'd amalgamated animals and old people.
What you've created there is a sort of... You've got your guns.
It's a sort of venison and they called "old deers".

Basically, your ... gets the most but massively in front (I can't hear this properly either - don't know if suze or swot can help with that). Children charities do well, and obviously some of those are also children's cancer related but not as well as the National Trust.

---

That's all, if you can help me with it, I can finally make the last subs that are missing out of all the 13 seasons of the show. I will share them with everybody after that, of course.


Hope this helps!

 
n3tman
1170466.  Mon Jan 18, 2016 6:47 pm Reply with quote

You're awesome! Thank you very much, suze, swot and Jenny (once again).

This last part is still confusing to me, though..
Quote:
https://youtu.be/JwIvM8hHouA?t=270 (4:30)

In a case we feel smart the British are called, what do you think that was?
Crikey.

"We didn't even have one" is the answer.
Basically, it was a bicycle lock key
and to arm the weapon you remove two screws from the panel
like having in the back of the remote control device, you know that?
And this reveals the sequence of dials, but this wasn't codes.
It was many settings, whether you wanted the bomb for an air burst or a ground burst.

What is called what, what does "crickey" mean, what didn't you even have?..

 
suze
1170469.  Mon Jan 18, 2016 7:18 pm Reply with quote

I think this is:

Stephen: In case we feel smug, the British code, what do you think that was?
Clarkson: Crikey.
Stephen: "We didn't even have one" is the answer.
Basically, it was a bicycle lock key and to arm the weapon you remove two screws from the panel like opening the back of a remote control device, you know?
And this reveals the sequence of dials, but this wasn't codes. It was many settings, whether you wanted the bomb for an air burst or a ground burst.


They're talking here about British bombs, and how there was no secret code number to access them. "Crikey" is a rather old-fashioned exclamation of surprise, which probably originated as a euphemistic version of "Christ". Clarkson is suggesting that it might have been used as a password to access the bombs, since it's a word that was only really used by the officer class.

In Britain as in many other countries, officers in the Army were traditionally from rich families and had been to private schools, while the lower ranks were often from poor families. "Crikey" is private school slang, so it's not a word that people from poor families used very much.

 
n3tman
1170604.  Tue Jan 19, 2016 10:37 am Reply with quote

suze, thank you for such detailed explanations. I will definitely include them while translating this episode (as well as Jenny's).

Here's the result:
http://www.addic7ed.com/serie/QI_XL/9/18/Idleness

I'm really amazed by your quick and comprehensive replies. I couldn't make this subs on my own. Thanks again, I wish you all the best!

 
Zziggy
1170624.  Tue Jan 19, 2016 11:45 am Reply with quote

n3tman wrote:
https://youtu.be/zh4xsTNxCg0?t=737 (12:17)

The idea is if, say, you start in an office and you're very good at filing or whatever.
They soon say we'll move him up to this or her up to this
They go upstairs, she's surely good at that, moving up, moving up.

As you're good at things you will get promoted, until you get to the thing you're not good at.
And that's sort of inherent flaw with a hierarchy ecosystem.
So what would be the best way of electing MPs?
Obviously, people have fiddled around with types of
whether there's first past the post or AV or PR or single transfer of their vote
But there is a system which guarantees certain number of things.
It guarantees, for example, powerful interest groups can have no influence whatsoever on the outcome.

'Single transferable vote'.

Sorry, you're all doing such a fantastic job and I come in and niggle :P

 
n3tman
1170897.  Wed Jan 20, 2016 9:55 am Reply with quote

Zziggy, thank you for correction! I edited the subs :)

 

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