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1157344.  Thu Nov 05, 2015 9:15 pm Reply with quote

Jenny wrote:
Yes, I say culander not colander, and now that I've been reminded of the word I do say cumbatant, but I think that's because the stress goes on the first syllable in combat and the second in combatant. At least it does the way I say it.

That's odd because you're northern (unless I'm much mistaken) and one thing I always notice about northerners is their tendency to really stress a "con-" or "com-", whilst I would usually opt for a schwa in the same instance.

1157394.  Fri Nov 06, 2015 10:11 am Reply with quote

Yes my dad - born and brought up in Hull - would stress the first syllable in con- and com- words, but I was born in India and didn't move to Hull until I was almost five, at which time I spoke with a slightly sing-song Anglo-Indian accent that sounded Welsh to people at school. My mum was a Londoner, though with not much of a London accent, so I never really grew up with a totally northern accent, though I can put one on if required.

Zziggy wrote:
suze wrote:
Everyone pronounces honey and money as "hunny" and "munny". ... practically everyone pronounces woman as "wumman"

Just to check: those 'u's aren't the same noise, right?

They're not the same the way I say them. Honey and money sound the same, but the o in woman sounds like the oo in wool.

1157412.  Fri Nov 06, 2015 12:10 pm Reply with quote

Zziggy wrote:
Just to check: those 'u's aren't the same noise, right?

They're not, no.

Unless the speaker is Australian or Welsh (in which cases she probably has an entirely different pronunciation of the honey vowel), the tongue is further forward and higher in the mouth for woman than it is for honey.

Further, the lips are rounded for woman which they're not for honey. If you try to say honey with rounded lips, the word which comes out will sound more like horny.

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1157413.  Fri Nov 06, 2015 12:12 pm Reply with quote

It comes out as hooney if I pronounce honey with rounded lips.

1157415.  Fri Nov 06, 2015 12:46 pm Reply with quote

Ah. Maybe I should have known this but I didn't, but I discover that South Africans in fact use the same vowel sound as Australians in a word such as honey.

So you, together with the Aussies and the Welshies, won't get horny if you round your lips and attempt to say honey. Do you get something somewhere between "hoony" and "hurny"? Most English, Scottish, and North American speakers of English will however get "horny".

Irish speakers of English may in fact use the same vowel for honey as they do for woman; they use the woman vowel for both words. I think they (together with the Newfies, perhaps) may be thus the only English speakers who would use a rounded vowel in honey.

1158721.  Mon Nov 16, 2015 11:23 am Reply with quote

suze wrote:
the tongue is further forward and higher in the mouth for woman

Don't mind me, just quoting out of context.

I'm late to the party as I didn't watch the short version of this episode so had to wait for the XL version, over 2 weeks later.

I was present for the recording of this ep, and really enjoyed it. I remember Stephen's description of Pakistan as being a lot less broadcastable in the recording, which is why it was so heavily edited in the episode.

The only bit I didn't like was the quote about being able to "prove anything with statistics except the truth." I find this a bit depressing since normally QI is keen to challenge accepted wisdom, not merely repeat it.

1158738.  Mon Nov 16, 2015 2:36 pm Reply with quote

I took the statistics quote as just a general warning to be vary of statistics and people using them to push their own agenda, or at least are convinced there is a trend showing when it isn't. Statistics are useful, but you need to know for example the social situation to make anything useful of it.

1158824.  Tue Nov 17, 2015 7:23 am Reply with quote

You also need to understand how statistics work.

Sadly most journalists and medical researchers haven't the faintest idea.

1158827.  Tue Nov 17, 2015 7:27 am Reply with quote

Of course 78.392% of statistical evidence is made up to support the argument rather than being calculated from actual data.



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