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Frederick The Monk
57631.  Tue Mar 07, 2006 5:20 am Reply with quote

One for the top of the show. Stephen shakes hands with the panel members, says how do you do' and then announces the scores depending on their answers before they even know they've started playing the game.

Question: How do you do?

Forfeits: Very well thank you. Fine thank you.

Answer: How do you do? [or simply bow]

Notes: The correct response to the greeting "How do you do?' is always "How do you do?" or a silent bow.

In Emily Post's 1922 Etiquette she says:

..... the correct formal greeting is: “How do you do?” If Mrs. Younger is presented to Mrs. Worldly, Mrs. Worldly says “How do you do?” If the Ambassador of France is presented to her, she says “How do you do?” Mrs. Younger and the Ambassador likewise say “How do you do?” or merely bow."

Guy Egmont in his 1961 The Art of Egmontese says:

"If anyone greets you with 'How do you do?', the reply is 'How d'you do?' and not 'I'm very well thank you' or words to that effect."

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57687.  Tue Mar 07, 2006 7:16 am Reply with quote

The Ongee people in the South Pacific have a much more nasally-centered culture than our Western visually-dominated one.

From a couple of anthropology books I'm reading, and also
Their calendar is constructed on the basis of the odours of flowers which come into bloom at different times of the year. Each season is named after a particular odour, and possesses its own distinctive ‘aroma-force’. Personal identity is also defined by smell - to refer to oneself, one touches the tip of one’s nose, a gesture meaning both ‘me’ and ‘my odour’.

When greeting someone, the Ongee do not ask ‘How are you?’, but ‘Konyune onorange-tanka?’ meaning ‘How is your nose?

And these two snickets are interesting too, possibly linking us to that 'Alan, do you deny it?' question:
In India, the traditional affectionate greeting - equivalent of the Western hug or kiss - was to smell someone’s head. An ancient Indian text declares “I will smell thee on the head, that is the greatest sign of tender love”.

Similar practices are found in Arab countries, where breathing on people as you speak to them signals friendship and goodwill - and to ‘deny’ someone your breath-smell conveys a shameful avoidance of involvement.

62066.  Mon Mar 27, 2006 8:58 am Reply with quote

Q: On the day that I am knighted, what will the Queen say to me?
F: Arise, Sir Stephen.
A: Nothing in particular [a good one for Flash’s ‘Nothing Special,’ eh?]. It seems that it is a myth that the magic words are spoken during knighting ceremonies. (Were they in the past, I wonder?)

Sir David Jason told the Daily Mirror, 25 March 2006: “I felt sure that the Queen would say ‘Arise, Sir David!.’ Well, she didn't! Unfortunately she doesn't say anything. She just does it [the dubbing, presumably] and you get up and she puts the gong round you and that’s it.”

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62125.  Mon Mar 27, 2006 1:09 pm Reply with quote

Yes, that ought to work. Only thing is I think Stephen may be reluctant to deliver the question in that form - might have to be addressed to an individual panellist as "what will the Queen say to you?"

62239.  Tue Mar 28, 2006 9:14 am Reply with quote

Does anyone know anything quinteresting about dinner jackets? The reason I ask is that in Eric Sykes’s autobiography he mentions that when applying for a job in rep in the 1940s “you usually sent a photograph and your height, weight, colour of eyes and usually ‘own dinner jacket’ on the back,” and that struck me as quite a nice bit of chairman’s notes info, if there was something to attach it to.

62453.  Wed Mar 29, 2006 8:16 am Reply with quote

What is the origin of the tuxedo? A joke, it seems:

The name is taken from Tuxedo Park, a tiny enclave in upstate New York that was originally built by tobacco mogul Pierre Lorillard as a “summer cottage” weekend colony for himself and his wealthy friends. On an October evening in 1880 at the Tuxedo Park autumn ball, Griswold, the youngest son of Pierre, decided to play a little sartorial prank on the club elders by lampooning the “English-style” abbreviated formal jackets that they wore to Delmonico’s in town. The young “Grizzy,” along with a group of other aldermen’s sons, took his formal tailcoat and lopped off the tails. Grizzy and his friends waltzed into the ballroom to the astonishment of everyone present. The sartorial prank made the social columns of the local newspaper and hence, the tuxedo became a fashion legend.

Frederick The Monk
63088.  Fri Mar 31, 2006 11:30 am Reply with quote

Updated 31/03/06


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