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51695.  Thu Feb 16, 2006 2:51 am Reply with quote

According to Herodotus, the Persians would always make decisions of import when drunk on wine; reviewing their decisions when sober. If they weren’t drunk and a decision needed to be made, they made it sober and reviewed it when drunk.

It is also their general practice to deliberate upon affairs of weight when they are drunk; and then on the morrow, when they are sober, the decision to which they came the night before is put before them by the master of the house in which it was made; and if it is then approved of, they act on it; if not, they set it aside. Sometimes, however, they are sober at their first deliberation, but in this case they always reconsider the matter under the influence of wine

51696.  Thu Feb 16, 2006 2:57 am Reply with quote

Excavations at Luxor have unearthed evidence of a “festival of drunkenness”, where ancient Egyptians would spend the beginning of the new year singing, dancing and drinking red beer until they passed out.

During ongoing excavations at a temple precinct in Luxor that is dedicated to the goddess Mut, the archaeologists recently found a sandstone column drum dating to 1470-1460 B.C. with writing that mentions the festival.

"People did not come to enjoy themselves. They drank to enter an altered state so that they might witness the epiphany of a deity."

"One commonality with modern celebrations is that they would have a 'designated driver' who was supposed to stay sober throughout the event to make sure that others were taken care of," said Bryan.

57039.  Sun Mar 05, 2006 6:09 am Reply with quote

Before hurricanes, the number one best selling item in Florida stores is beer, Walmart have developed tracking technology which can identify shopping trends, and to their surprise beer outsold batteries, torches and even water when pre-hurricane sales were compared with normal purchases.

Wal-Mart's tracking technology also discovered another surprise that apparently turns up on people's shopping list, Strawberry Pop- Tart. Not just any Pop-Tarts mind you, but Strawberry Pop-Tarts. They reportedly sell at seven times their normal rate before a hurricane. Still not nearly as popular, though, as good old-fashioned beer.

57063.  Sun Mar 05, 2006 7:49 am Reply with quote

Do you mind if add those to my drunkenness question? Cracking good info!

Frederick The Monk
57139.  Sun Mar 05, 2006 12:23 pm Reply with quote

The Greeks in Egypt also liked a drunken knees-up. In Alexandria the festival of Dionysius (= Roman Bacchus) was celebrated with a huge drunken procession. Athenaeus of Naucratis recorded it in The Learned Banquet, Book V"

“…a four-wheeled wagon fourteen cubits[20 feet] high and eight cubits [12 ft] wide, it was drawn by one hundred and eighty men. On it was the image of Dionysus – ten cubits[15 ft] high......He was pouring libations from a golden goblet and had a purple tunic reaching to his feet… In front of him lay a Lacedaemonian goblet of gold holding fifteen measures of wine, and a golden tripod, in which was a golden incense burner, and two golden bowls full of cassia and saffron, and a shade covered it round adorned with ivy and vine leaves and all other kinds of greenery…”

More wagons laden with gilded bowls and tripods followed, along with a display from the Royal menagerie consisting of twenty-four chariots drawn by four elephants each, twelve chariots drawn by antelopes, fifteen by buffaloes, eight by pairs of ostriches, eight by zebras and twenty-four lions. There was also one final scene of conspicuous consumption. A wagon, forty foot long and fifteen foot wide trundled down the granite road drawn by six hundred men:

“On this wagon was a sack, holding three thousand measures of wine and consisting of leopards’ skins sewn together. This sack allowed its liquor to escape, and it gradually flowed over the whole road…The cost of this great occasion was 2,239 talents and 50 minae,”

59026.  Sat Mar 11, 2006 3:28 pm Reply with quote

A bibliography of lab-based bibulousity, into which someone with more access to scientific publiations than YHN may delve:

Agranoff, BW and Linger, PO (1964):
"Puromycin effect on memory fixation in the goldfish" - Science, 146, p952-3

Briddell DW and Wilson OT (1976):
"The effects of alcohol and expectancy set on male sexual arousal" - Journal of Abnormal Psychiatry, 85, p225-34

Essig CF and Lam RC (1968):
"Convulsions and hallucinatory behaviour following alcohol withdrawal in the dog" - Archives of Neurology, 18, 626-32

Freund, G (1969):
"Alcoholic withdrawal syndrome in mice" - Archives of Neurology, 21, 315-20

Gantt, WH (1952):
"Effect of alcohol on the sexual reflexes of normal and neurotic male dogs" - Psychosomatic Medicine, 14, 174-81

Ingle, DJ (1965):
"The use of the fish in neuropsychology" - Perspectives in Biology and Medicine, 8, 241-60

Lester, D (1961):
"Self-maintenance of intoxication in the rat" - Quarterly Journal of Sudies in Alcohol, 22, 223-31

Kahn, M and Stellar, E (1960):
"Alcohol preference in normal and anosmic rats" - Journal of Comparitive Physiology and Psychology, 53, 571-5

McClearn G and Rodgers DA (1961):
"Genetic factors in alcohol preference of laboratory mice" - Journal of Comparitive Physiology and Psychology, 54, 116-119

Massermann JH and Yum, KS (1946):
"An analysis of the influence of alcohol on experimental neurosis in cats" - Psychosomatic Medicine, 8, 36-52

Mello, NK (1963):
"A review of methods to produce alcohol addiction in animals" - Pharmacological and Biochemical Behaviour, 1, 89-101

Riley, Bunis and Greenfield (1984):
"Nipple attachment in neonatal rats exposed to alcohol prenatally" - Bulletin of the Psychometric Society, 22

Ryback, RS (1970):
"The use of fish, especially goldfish, in alcohol research" - Quarterly Journal of Studies in Alcohol, 32, 162-6.

Shupe, L (1954):
"Alcohol and crime: a study of the urine alcohol concentrations found in 882 persons arrested during or immediately after the commission of a felony" - Journal of Criminal Law, Criminology and Police Science, 44, 661-4

Wilson, GT and Lawson DM (1976):
"Expectancies, alcohol and sexual arousal in male social drinkers" - Journal of Abnormal Psychology, 85, 489-97
- also: "Expectancies, alcohol and sexual arousal in woman" - op cit, 87, 358-67
- also "Effects of alcohol in sexual arousal in male alcoholics" - op cit, 87, 609-16

Yano, K Rhoads GG and Kagan A (1977):
"Coffee, alcohol and risk of coronary heart disease among Japanese men living in Hawaii" - New England Journal of Medicine, 297, 405-9

Molly Cule
61135.  Tue Mar 21, 2006 6:08 am Reply with quote

I know we said we could use this questions in the Disney round, but Im putting it here for drinking/bootlegging purposes.

1. Who asked his friends to call him Snorky?

Al Capone. Snorky was 1920’s slang for someone who was well-dressed. He liked to think he was a pretty snappy dresser. His actual nickname was Scarface. Al Capone can be thanked for the invention of a lot of cocktails, which started being popular during Prohibition. Al Capone built his lucrative crime empire from bootlegging alcohol and supplying the many speakeasies in American cities. Bootlegging – alcohol hidden in flasks strapped onto the legs of the seller just above the boot. Al Capone was sent to prison for tax evasion and went crazy I Alcatraz, he used to make and unmake his bed repeatedly throughout the day and sometime be found wailing in the corner of his cell talking total gibberish, he was haunted by the ghost of a man killed in the St valentines day massacre. His dementia might have been caused by an untreated case of syphilis.
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During an era when fifty dollars a week would support a family comfortably, a Capone bodyguard or driver might make as much as a hundred dollars a day. The IRS later estimated Al’s 1927 receipts at a hundred million dollars, with his personal profit probably approaching ten million dollars. About 60 percent of the gross came from booze.

He once threw himself a champagne birthday party that lasted three days, with Fats Waller entertaining on piano.

Capone sponsored city soup kitchens during the Depression. He tipped waiters and musicians with hundred-dollar bills. His Christmas shopping set him back to the tune of a hundred thousand dollars. To special friends he handed out diamond belt buckles.

Capone’s celebrity was practically boundless. “I’m known all over the world,” he said. He was. The Russian commissar Vyacheslav Molotov denounced him as an emblem of capitalism.

He sold papers. No top gangster has ever spoken to reporters with such candor, an openness that fueled his fame. He found that fame had its drawbacks too. In 1925 he applied for a life insurance policy. No company would take the risk.


62230.  Tue Mar 28, 2006 8:45 am Reply with quote

“In 1736 there were 7,044 gin-shops in London - one house in six - and 3,200 alehouses where gin was secretly sold.”

S: Sir Walter Besant, quoted in a reader’s letter, Daily Telegraph 27 March 2006.

One house in six was an official gin house? Fantastic! Bet people didn’t bother going to Dublin for their hen nights back then.


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