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djgordy
974455.  Tue Feb 19, 2013 3:24 pm Reply with quote

I saw someone in my bathroom the other night. I though it was my girlfriend so we had sex four times before I realised it was a burglar.

 
PDR
974480.  Tue Feb 19, 2013 5:03 pm Reply with quote

Did he ever recover?

PDR

 
CB27
974492.  Tue Feb 19, 2013 8:05 pm Reply with quote

Going through some of the excerpts, it seems to me that his defence have shot themselves in the foot (excuse the pun), because unless there's a massive surprise bit of evidence to come out, their defence is that this was not premeditated murder of his girlfriend, instead it was an accidental killing because of a premeditated attempt to kill a burglar.

When the trial come out more evidence will come out, but to take his words at face value and being the truth, he armed himself and went to the balcony because he thought he heard a burglar, on returning he heard a noise behind the bathroom door, shot four times through it, then turned around and realised Ms Steenkamp wasn't in bed, and that it was possibly her that was in the bathroom.

That evidence suggests to me a premeditated attempt to murder any burglar who might have been in the bathroom, and at the very least should be considered to be included in the charges when this goes to court.

 
Peregrine Arkwright
974501.  Tue Feb 19, 2013 8:57 pm Reply with quote

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Surely it's still murder even if you get the wrong guy. Otherwise it would be the standard defence of many of those accused. I don't think the Norwegians would let Anders Breivik off the hook because he couldn't identify his eventual victims beforehand.

 
CB27
974513.  Tue Feb 19, 2013 9:54 pm Reply with quote

This is what I mean. The defence seems to suggest he was willing to murder someone, but simply got the wrong person. Seems to me like a huge weakness in their argument.

Their argument will be that he thought he was defending himself, but shooting at someone through a closed door without any warning is not your classic case of defence.

 
AlmondFacialBar
974588.  Wed Feb 20, 2013 7:41 am Reply with quote

So apparently they found testosterone, needles and syringes in the room - why am I not surprised? Why am I also not surprised that his defence says they weren't steroids but a herbal remedy?

Anyway, a legally trained friend of mine made an interesting point over lunch - the difference between murder and manslaughter could be if he was or wasn't wearing his prostethics while shooting. If he wasn't, there is a good chance that this might have been indeed a moment of panic, but if he was, there was obviously some planning behind it because it would take him time and purposeful thinking to put them on.

On a personal level... I don't think the guy is a nice person, that's difficult to maintain for a professional athlete, but to me he does seem honestly devastated (or he should get himself a ticket to Hollywood now).

:-)

AlmondFacialBar


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PDR
974592.  Wed Feb 20, 2013 7:47 am Reply with quote

It depends what the SA laws are regarding finding burglars in your house. There are some parts of the world where it is legal to shoot someone you find uninvited in your house - I think there are even some US states where shooting a burglar isn't necessarily criminal.

Also the definitions of "premeditated" may vary as well.

PDR

 
'yorz
974596.  Wed Feb 20, 2013 7:59 am Reply with quote

We don't know all the facts - so everything remains speculative.
My sarcastic side would think that yes, he will be devastated that in one moment of stupidity he's thrown away a very lucrative career.
But again - we don't know the ins and outs yet.

 
filofax
974600.  Wed Feb 20, 2013 8:07 am Reply with quote

Maybe I watch too much CSI,but wouldn't they be able to tell from the trajectory of the bullets whether or not he was wearing his prosthetics?
It seems that his story pretty much hinges on that.

 
AlmondFacialBar
974602.  Wed Feb 20, 2013 8:13 am Reply with quote

This morning on Sky News they said that the court had indeed asked for a plan of the bathroom to work out just that.

:-)

AlmondFacialBar

 
filofax
974603.  Wed Feb 20, 2013 8:16 am Reply with quote

I've evidently developed a brilliant legal mind. You see? all those hours in front of the telly weren't wasted.

 
AlmondFacialBar
974605.  Wed Feb 20, 2013 8:19 am Reply with quote

I hear you! Between those years of House and my job I should long be able to open my own GP surgery... ;-)

:-)

AlmondFacialBar

 
PDR
974611.  Wed Feb 20, 2013 8:38 am Reply with quote

You'll probably even get patients - People are Idiots!

PDR

 
AlmondFacialBar
974613.  Wed Feb 20, 2013 8:44 am Reply with quote

*nods* I'll just do the take two Paracetamol and call me if it's not better in the morning thing, right? And once they start bleeding out of strange orifices I'll tell them it's Lupus/ Sarcoidosis/ Infectious Vasculitis/ Paraneoplastic Syndrome depending on the weather, and refer them to a specialist. YAY! I'm made!

:-)

AlmondFacialBar

 
Peregrine Arkwright
974755.  Wed Feb 20, 2013 11:59 am Reply with quote

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Apparently the latest worry is whether he will jump bail. Those blades of his must pack quite a punch.

 

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