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PDR
974160.  Mon Feb 18, 2013 3:29 pm Reply with quote

barbados wrote:
And from this you only picked up on disabled access in prions?


That would be settled the first time we see a wheelchair-bound cow suffering from BSE...

PDR

 
AlmondFacialBar
974162.  Mon Feb 18, 2013 3:43 pm Reply with quote

PDR wrote:
barbados wrote:
And from this you only picked up on disabled access in prions?


That would be settled the first time we see a wheelchair-bound cow suffering from BSE...

PDR


Though I dare say you're confusing cause and effect there. Wouldn't it be more likely that the cow became wheelchair bound because she had BSE?

:-)

AlmondFacialBar

 
'yorz
974171.  Mon Feb 18, 2013 4:21 pm Reply with quote

Loathe as I am to come to PDR's defense, the man did not state that the cow did not contract BSE and thus became wheelchair bound.

 
PDR
974176.  Mon Feb 18, 2013 4:31 pm Reply with quote

Actually I did, because the issue was the degree of diabled access to the prion, implying that the disability preceded the access to the prion that induced the BSE.

PDR

 
AlmondFacialBar
974178.  Mon Feb 18, 2013 4:32 pm Reply with quote

Ok, you win... So how exactly did the cow come to use the wheelchair?

:-)

AlmondFacialBar

 
'yorz
974179.  Mon Feb 18, 2013 4:37 pm Reply with quote

Quote:
the degree of diabled access to the prion


Can you please clean your s-key, PDR? Dread to think what's underneath it, but it sticks.

 
djgordy
974180.  Mon Feb 18, 2013 4:42 pm Reply with quote

The typo "prions" appeared in Barbados' post on the bottom of page 2. A prion is a kind of infectious agent such as is responsible for BSE; hence the cows in wheelchairs.

 
PDR
974186.  Mon Feb 18, 2013 5:26 pm Reply with quote

AlmondFacialBar wrote:
Ok, you win... So how exactly did the cow come to use the wheelchair?


I would guess in the conventional manner - initially the hospital would lend it an NHS standard-issue one and then a charity might provide a better one. Ultimately it might purchase its own more up-market one (if it can afford it) and, of course, if it had ambitions to compete in wheelchair tennis or other paralympic sport it would need to consider buying one of the specialist ones for the nature of the sport in question.

It's udderly up to the individual cow, and will depend to some extent on its ability to milk the charity system.

PDR

 
barbados
974187.  Mon Feb 18, 2013 5:31 pm Reply with quote

It would be my S key that needs cleaning.

I did try with the recommended preparatory soft drink, however all that did was render my key useless which of course does mean I now need to call directory enquiries to find a local rate se line number. Maybe someone could suggest one?

 
Alfred E Neuman
974384.  Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:34 am Reply with quote

As the erstwhile local (to QI) expert on local (to South Africa) conditions, I feel that I should chip in here.

Many people live in secure complexes, but that doesn't really guarantee you any real level of security. Many people here own guns, most for self-defense. Many of the people who live in secure complexes do so because they feel safer there. And the same can be said for gun ownership. If you feel insecure, a gated complex is unlikely to make you feel completely secure.*

But owning a number of firearms for protection is unusual. Most people who have more than one firearm are either hunters, competitive marksmen or collectors. It seems Oscar was a bit of a gun nut. I'm not too sure what the press mean when they say he owns a machine gun - it is not legal to own a fully automatic firearm in South Africa, and I haven't seen anything indicating his "machine gun" was illegal, so I suspect it may well have been a semi-automatic rifle, which I would not call a machine gun.

Getting a license for a firearm in South Africa requires you to be able to prove proficiency, and that is done on a firing range - that and the fact that he once took an interviewer with him to a range makes me doubt that he had never fired the gun before, on the contrary, all indications are that he was pretty familiar with shooting. Another legal requirement is that you have a safe to keep your firearm in, and not leave them lying around the house (mostly to prevent them ending up in the hands of criminals). It seems he may well have ignored that. He could lose his license for leaving guns lying around, but I doubt that is his biggest concern now.

On the subject of what happened, you know as much as I do, or more if you've read more up to date reports. I do suspect that the "mistook her for an intruder" did look a bit as if it was leaked by his PR people.


* I'm not an expert of why people own guns or live in secure complexes. I personally do neither, and live in a slightly isolated farmhouse with almost no security other than a grumpy disposition and a flatulent great dane. Oh, I do own a chain saw which, (due to my single status) is kept on the coffee table in my lounge, may well count as a weapon if needed.

 
Neotenic
974389.  Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:46 am Reply with quote

Yeah it does seem that the 'mistaken for a burglar' thing will form a key plank of the defence.

One fairly important piece of additional information that has made its way into the public domain via this hearing is that the poor girl was shot through the closed bathroom door.

Of course, there's probably a lot more to come - but I'm sure it is a rare occurance that a burglar breaks into a property and thinks to themselves "you know, before I swipe this laptop and DVD player, I must just pop into the ensuite for a poo."

 
Jenny
974392.  Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:52 am Reply with quote

There's also a bit I read about a cricket bat with blood on it and a wound on her head that seems to undermine the credibility of 'mistook her for an intruder'.

 
filofax
974400.  Tue Feb 19, 2013 11:12 am Reply with quote

I think he's claiming that he used the cricket bat to break down the door when he realised what had happened.

 
djgordy
974429.  Tue Feb 19, 2013 12:41 pm Reply with quote

Neotenic wrote:

Of course, there's probably a lot more to come - but I'm sure it is a rare occurance that a burglar breaks into a property and thinks to themselves "you know, before I swipe this laptop and DVD player, I must just pop into the ensuite for a poo."


They usually do the bathroom last so they can take a photo of their anus with the householder's tooth brush up there, bristles first and then they post the photo to the house a couple of days later.

 
bemahan
974450.  Tue Feb 19, 2013 2:51 pm Reply with quote

I thought the 'in the bathroom' bit was odd. Firstly because why would you assume the person in the batroom was an intruder? Did he not know that Reeva was in the house? If I was at home with bemahub and heard someone in the bathroom, I would check it wasn't him before I grabbed my gun and opened fire.
Secondly, as Neo says, what would a burglar be doing in the bathroom with the door shut?
Has there been any mention made of whether he was using any 'substances' at the time? Whether legal or illegal.
filofax wrote:

I think he's claiming that he used the cricket bat to break down the door when he realised what had happened.

So how did he realise what he'd done through a closed door? Did he suddenly develop x-ray vision? She can't have had much time to shout out. Or did he have a horrid sinking feeling as he suddenly thought, "Oh, shit. Where's Ree?"*
All very strange.

*edit - I just read the full transcript and see that is pretty much what he says did happen.

 

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