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'yorz
985480.  Sat Mar 30, 2013 6:33 am Reply with quote

PDR wrote:
Can you give a link to something that shows (a) that there are houses very close to his and (b) that one or more of the potential witnesses lives in one of them?


a) click

am working on b)

 
PDR
985482.  Sat Mar 30, 2013 6:38 am Reply with quote

Thanks for that 'yorz.

CB - you were right and I was wrong. Apols.

PDR

 
'yorz
985484.  Sat Mar 30, 2013 6:42 am Reply with quote

WTF?
Brother Pistorius as well?!?


Anyhoo - as for distance between (houses of) witnesses and Pistorius' abode - I cannot find anything pointing to location of witnesses, nor their identity. I guess the Prosecution will keep those details for the actual court case.

 
CB27
985584.  Sat Mar 30, 2013 7:03 pm Reply with quote

PDR wrote:
Thanks for that 'yorz.

CB - you were right and I was wrong. Apols.

PDR

No sweat, puts us about even :)

I agree that he's currently innocent until proven guilty, but my understanding is that having been charged with murder you would expect to be put in jail until the trial because of the seriousness of the charge. To be given bail, some conditions should then be met to ensure that there is no danger of the suspect not turning up for their trial, or that they may influence the investigation, or that they could commit similar crimes.

It seems to me that people view bail as simply the handing over of vast amounts of money as a "security" with no strings attached.

I'm far from being an expert in the law (or even as aspirational as an amateur), so it's simply a personal sense of what should be the correct procedure, if it's not then my bad :)

 
Alfred E Neuman
1093601.  Thu Sep 11, 2014 6:05 am Reply with quote

Well, the judge has found him not guilty of murder. And then she took a lunch break, so we'll have to wait to see if she finds him guilty of culpable homicide.

 
bemahan
1093602.  Thu Sep 11, 2014 6:16 am Reply with quote

It's like waiting for the results on X-Factor. ;)

 
Alfred E Neuman
1093603.  Thu Sep 11, 2014 6:38 am Reply with quote

She has a real sense of drama, and could easily have a good career on TV. I like her, and think she's done a good job, but I think Gerrie Nel didn't cover all his bases when he went for pre-meditated.

 
barbados
1093610.  Thu Sep 11, 2014 7:29 am Reply with quote

Having failed the reasonable person test, that looks as though culpable homicide is a likely outcome.

Although you can't help but think the last thing the judge said today should have been "tune in tomorrow for the next exciting episode"

 
Alfred E Neuman
1093612.  Thu Sep 11, 2014 8:16 am Reply with quote

Especially less than twenty minutes after she came back from a lunch break that was over an hour and a half long.

Looks like the state screwed up by pressing charges for premeditated murder off Reeva Steenkamp instead of charging him with murder of the presumed assailant.

 
barbados
1093614.  Thu Sep 11, 2014 8:46 am Reply with quote

The judge needs one of these

 
Alfred E Neuman
1093616.  Thu Sep 11, 2014 8:48 am Reply with quote

She's certainly milking her five minutes of fame.

 
bobwilson
1094925.  Fri Sep 19, 2014 10:15 pm Reply with quote

I think there's a few telling statements on here

Can somebody explain to me why a murder trial 8000 miles away is of any interest to anyone in the UK?

Quote:
my understanding is that having been charged with murder you would expect to be put in jail until the trial because of the seriousness of the charge


seems reasonable for an interest – although oddly I haven't seen much discussion of this point.

CB is doing himself an injustice when he states that

Quote:
I'm far from being an expert in the law (or even as aspirational as an amateur), so it's simply a personal sense of what should be the correct procedure, if it's not then my bad :)


Actually – that is exactly the law. Informing the populace of a failure to follow the law would (in my opinion) fall within the remit of a public service broadcaster.

Quote:
Well, the judge has found him not guilty of murder. And then she took a lunch break, so we'll have to wait to see if she finds him guilty of culpable homicide.

It's like waiting for the results on X-Factor. ;)


So it goes. All is subservient to the needs of television. This judge is quite clearly not interested in serving justice – and is angling for a career as a television presenter. There's a word for someone who trades on their accidental fortune (good looks, televisual presentability etc) – TART.

So what we have here is the story of a prostitute (well, she got paid didn't she – and certainly didn't act as would be expected of an invested judge). Trading on the accidental occasion of being placed in charge of a murder trial the “judge” decided to go for a career in television.

So, just to clarify. This is the story of Jack and Diane – two obscure kids of no particular interest to anyone except that Jack is technically disabled (Hollywood take note). Jack (allegedly) kills Diane in a moment of confusion (nothing particularly exceptional about that – would make a good “documentary” on Channel 5 or similar sleaze/porn peddler).

Meanwhile the PSB fails to follow up on the genuine public interest story of a judge who is preoccupied with satisfying TV ratings.

When can we expect the quislings who are currently engaged with the BBC to cut loose and refuse to work with this travesty of Public Service Broadcasting until they return to (at least) the standards of the 1960's (flawed but serviceable).

Better minds than mine will express it more fluently - I hope.

 
bemahan
1094946.  Sat Sep 20, 2014 2:47 am Reply with quote

bobwilson wrote:

Quote:
Well, the judge has found him not guilty of murder. And then she took a lunch break, so we'll have to wait to see if she finds him guilty of culpable homicide.

It's like waiting for the results on X-Factor. ;)


So it goes.

Oooh. I've been "quoted" by bob.

Edit - the first part of the quote (i.e. the interesting bit) was AEN. The second part (i.e. the silly bit) was me. Quelle surprise.


Last edited by bemahan on Sat Sep 20, 2014 3:06 am; edited 2 times in total

 
Awitt
1094948.  Sat Sep 20, 2014 2:54 am Reply with quote

Don't let it go to his head.....

 
djgordy
1095022.  Sat Sep 20, 2014 2:21 pm Reply with quote

bobwilson wrote:

So what we have here is the story of a prostitute


I see that some people are still struggling with the whole "libel" concept.

 

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