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Alfred E Neuman
975372.  Fri Feb 22, 2013 8:09 am Reply with quote

Beats me. Usually you'd expect a bail hearing to last an hour or two. And usually it will be centred more on whether the accused is a flight risk than their guilt.

 
PDR
975373.  Fri Feb 22, 2013 8:13 am Reply with quote

Well I wish they'd get on and focus on the task in hand so the world can turn its attention to more important things (like how Hamilton is getting to grips with the Mercedes in the Barcelona pre-season testing).

PDR

 
bemahan
975383.  Fri Feb 22, 2013 8:30 am Reply with quote

Neotenic wrote:

Reading this, I can't help but feel sorry for your future son-in-law, whoever he may be.

I think you mean person-in-law. He/she will be very lucky; bemad. is gorgeous in every way* possible. Takes after her mother.

*except for leaving her clothes on the floor but that might be seen as a bonus by a partner.

 
PDR
975385.  Fri Feb 22, 2013 8:34 am Reply with quote

bemahan wrote:


...bemad. is gorgeous in every way* possible. Takes after her mother.



SHould those two sentences be one sentence, joined with the words "...and yet still..."?

:-)

PDR

 
bemahan
975389.  Fri Feb 22, 2013 8:40 am Reply with quote

Nope. Cheeky arse.* :)

* that's referring to PDR' not a description of bemabum.

 
Peregrine Arkwright
975418.  Fri Feb 22, 2013 9:30 am Reply with quote

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Noting AlfEN's point that the judgment will be made by three judges and no jury, like a magistrates court here, I also note that cameras and broadcasting microphones are even permitted in the court room. All very alien to the British way of doing things. As I write I think the bail magistrate has already been rabbiting on for about two hours. How long will the substantive trial take FGS?

 
bemahan
975421.  Fri Feb 22, 2013 9:46 am Reply with quote

So he's been given bail.

 
'yorz
975422.  Fri Feb 22, 2013 9:49 am Reply with quote

Amidst all his waffle, His Honour muttered something about the rather in-yer-face flashing of media cameras in court whenever the accused appeared. Since I lost my concentration, I don't know whether that flashing has now been banned.

 
'yorz
975427.  Fri Feb 22, 2013 9:55 am Reply with quote

Hehe - the Sky commentator just mentioned 'the accused Oscar Peterson'.
Cue - Hymn to Freedom

 
Alfred E Neuman
975453.  Fri Feb 22, 2013 10:28 am Reply with quote

bemahan wrote:
So he's been given bail.


Yep, R1 000 000 bail. Not surprising really.

 
tetsabb
975573.  Fri Feb 22, 2013 7:20 pm Reply with quote

Alfred E Neuman wrote:
Usually you'd expect a bail hearing to last an hour or two.

I Youlgreaved that as "ball bearing"
Working nights currently
Ignore me.
;-)

 
'yorz
975603.  Fri Feb 22, 2013 8:48 pm Reply with quote

You're very well capable of these youlgreaves during your time off as well, tets. ;-p

 
tetsabb
975608.  Fri Feb 22, 2013 9:19 pm Reply with quote

Guilty as charged, m'lady
:-)

 
barbados
975657.  Sat Feb 23, 2013 5:06 am Reply with quote

djgordy wrote:
Quote:
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It's lucky there aren't laws about libel in this country, otherwise calling someone a "murderer" before he has even faced trial, and may be found not guilty, might leave certain persons open to prosecution.


For there to be libel the claim would need to be untrue, and as far as I can tell there are a few points that would make that difficult to prove.

1) He doesn't deny shooting the person that was in his bathroom.
2) He shot 4 times which removes a reasonable force self defence claim
3) In shooting 4 times it could be reasonably assumed that the intention was to kill who was in the bathroom
4) Murder is the unlawful killing with malice aforthought (or he intended to kill the person in the bathroom) - You don't accidentally pick up a gun and fire four times through a closed door, so he intended to kill the person.

Just because the person you are shooting isn't the person you think you are shooting doesn't make it unintentional.

 
djgordy
975666.  Sat Feb 23, 2013 5:20 am Reply with quote

The point would be easy to prove if he were to face trial and found to be not guilty of murder. In which case, calling him a murderer would be libel. "Murder" is not the same as "killing".


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