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Rory Gilmore
43919.  Sat Jan 07, 2006 3:36 pm Reply with quote

Shakespeare never wrote this, but in Henvy IV Part One he had Falstaff say ''The better part of valour is discretion, in the which better part I have saved my life'', although I for one have no idea what this means.

 
mckeonj
43922.  Sat Jan 07, 2006 3:41 pm Reply with quote

Rory Gilmore wrote:
Shakespeare never wrote this, but in Henvy IV Part One he had Falstaff say ''The better part of valour is discretion, in the which better part I have saved my life'', although I for one have no idea what this means.

Paraphrase:
"He who fights, and runs away,
"Lives to fight another day."

 
Rory Gilmore
43926.  Sat Jan 07, 2006 3:44 pm Reply with quote

Oh, now I understand. Thanks.

 
Natalie
43931.  Sat Jan 07, 2006 3:52 pm Reply with quote

mckeonj wrote:

"He who fights, and runs away,
"Lives to fight another day."


Did Bob marley sing that too?

 
Rory Gilmore
43934.  Sat Jan 07, 2006 3:54 pm Reply with quote

He doesn't look like much of a fighter to me.

 
gerontius grumpus
43938.  Sat Jan 07, 2006 4:05 pm Reply with quote

'Bottle' is defined as valour minus discretion.

 
Rory Gilmore
43939.  Sat Jan 07, 2006 4:07 pm Reply with quote

As is ''KIA''.

 
tetsabb
44009.  Sat Jan 07, 2006 7:43 pm Reply with quote

Google Fight:--
Discretion -- 78,600,000
Valour -- 2,100,000
(and Valor -- 22,300,000)

So I guess that wraps it up on that one, either way.

 
djgordy
44018.  Sat Jan 07, 2006 8:19 pm Reply with quote

mckeonj wrote:

Paraphrase:
"He who fights, and runs away,
"Lives to fight another day."


I wouldn't say that 'He who fights....' means the same as 'Discretion is the better part of valour'.

People tend to misunderstand what is meant by 'the better part of'. It doesn't mean that discretion is better than valour or that it is better to run and away rather than be killed. 'The better part of' means 'more than half of'. For instance, you might say that 61 is the better part of 100.

People also tend to misunderstand what is meant by 'discretion'. It doesn't mean 'running away' or 'cowardice' or anything like that. Discretion refers to the exercise of judgement; being prudent or thoughtful.

So 'discretion is the better part of valour' means that when it comes to something that requires courage, the most important thing is to use your judgement rather than go blundering in.

 
gerontius grumpus
44224.  Sun Jan 08, 2006 10:36 pm Reply with quote

Rory Gilmore wrote:
As is ''KIA''.


Sorry, don't get your banter.

 
Celebaelin
44228.  Sun Jan 08, 2006 11:18 pm Reply with quote

Killed In Action

 
gerontius grumpus
44233.  Mon Jan 09, 2006 3:42 am Reply with quote

Silly me, I had assumed it was a word.

 
Tas
44241.  Mon Jan 09, 2006 5:58 am Reply with quote

"Discretion is the better part of Valour"

or, to put it another way, "Hit the other guy when he is not looking!"

:-D

Tas

 
Rory Gilmore
44305.  Mon Jan 09, 2006 12:26 pm Reply with quote

Or even ''Hit him, but only if he's smaller than you and your parents won't find out''.

 
djgordy
44306.  Mon Jan 09, 2006 12:31 pm Reply with quote

Rory Gilmore wrote:
Or even ''Hit him, but only if he's smaller than you and your parents won't find out''.


Except that hitting someone smaller than you is rarely regarded as an act of valour.

 

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