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mckeonj
917672.  Mon Jun 18, 2012 8:41 am Reply with quote

Efros wrote:
Sounds like you need to do a start up repair.

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows7/products/features/startup-repair

Been there, done that.
New computer?

 
Efros
917690.  Mon Jun 18, 2012 9:49 am Reply with quote

Wipe & reinstall, presuming you have your docs etc on another drive somewhere.

 
aTao
917757.  Mon Jun 18, 2012 12:51 pm Reply with quote

Posital wrote:
After a bit of dodgy research:
It appears the the clipboard is a service (that is installed as part of your keyboard driver?).

C:\WINDOWS\system32\clipsrv.exe

Quote:
I uninstalled java. Don't know if I will be missing anything now but the paste does now work

So I guess Java possibly overrides this and tries to use its own clipboard...

Computers, who'd 'ave 'em...?


<rant> Its not f*ing Java, if it has anything to do with Java its Micro$oft f*king it up and fingering Java in the mean time. Java will use the system clipboard, not make up its own partially functional one. Uninstalling Java wouldnt fix it.
</rant>

If you uninstall Java you will be missing out on a whole bunch of wonderful goodies, but thats easily fixed.

 
Efros
917763.  Mon Jun 18, 2012 12:56 pm Reply with quote

Nobody's talking about uninstalling java, merely it seems that on some PCs java seems to terminate the clipboard process. Wipe and reinstall was a reference to the whole HD and Windows 7.

 
mckeonj
917774.  Mon Jun 18, 2012 1:35 pm Reply with quote

erm, this whole fiasco was the result of wiping the whole hard disk, and reinstalling Windows 7!
Most of the pre-existing programs and files were restored from 'windows.old', because my external hard drive with full back-ups had expired, was dead, AFU.
I am calm, c a l m, c a l m.

 
Efros
917783.  Mon Jun 18, 2012 2:13 pm Reply with quote

Sorry don't get that, windows.old means that you installed over an old installation.

 
mckeonj
917813.  Mon Jun 18, 2012 4:25 pm Reply with quote

Efros wrote:
Sorry don't get that, windows.old means that you installed over an old installation.

Yes, indeed. Otherwise I would have lost everything.

 
Efros
917814.  Mon Jun 18, 2012 4:28 pm Reply with quote

So you didn't wipe the hard disk then. I'm suggesting you get your documents off the HD and the format the HD and then reinstall windows on a completely clean HD..

 
mckeonj
920419.  Thu Jun 28, 2012 3:49 pm Reply with quote

The mystery has been solved; I can now copy and paste with the best.
It was an otherwise saintly and much loved utility wot done it; IOBIT Advanced System Care PRO: Smart RAM utility.
One of the settings is 'Clean Clipboard' which it does at intervals with religious fervour unless the box is unchecked.
This is not meant to advertise the product; just passing on useful information.

 
PDR
920431.  Thu Jun 28, 2012 5:17 pm Reply with quote

Yeah - java is such a wonderful, reliable and robust technology that it only needs to be patched about every three days...

Get real!

PDR

 
Efros
920432.  Thu Jun 28, 2012 5:22 pm Reply with quote

Yup only just ahead of Flash in that regard.

 
aTao
920461.  Thu Jun 28, 2012 11:30 pm Reply with quote

PDR wrote:
Yeah - java is such a wonderful, reliable and robust technology that it only needs to be patched about every three days...

Get real!

PDR


Really?, Ohh, you must be referring to Microsoft's implementation.

 
Posital
920471.  Fri Jun 29, 2012 1:32 am Reply with quote

It's adobe AIR that gets me.

I suspect PDR is mistaken.

 
PDR
920479.  Fri Jun 29, 2012 2:51 am Reply with quote

I've been monitoring it as part of some research I'm doing on the reliability/maintainability characteristics of COTS software for my dissertation. On a typical domestic PC the mean time between Java updates is 2.7 days - roughly three times the arising rate for the operating system itself.

PDR

 
aTao
920599.  Fri Jun 29, 2012 12:36 pm Reply with quote

PDR wrote:
I've been monitoring it as part of some research I'm doing on the reliability/maintainability characteristics of COTS software for my dissertation. On a typical domestic PC the mean time between Java updates is 2.7 days - roughly three times the arising rate for the operating system itself.

PDR


Still confused here.. you seem to be getting far more updates than Sun (Oracle) are releasing....
Java SE 6 first update page info indicates the page was written on 16th July 2010.
Java SE 6 update 33 page written 19th June 2012
33 updates in 2 years is a bit less than every 2.7 days.
Or is the key phrase "typical domestic PC"? running Microsoft's dodgy version of Java (for which they have been repeatedly hauled across the mat)
And dont confuse other 3rd party software failing to implement a suitable sandbox with a Java security issue. I believe that the last alert was Java being run with excessive privileges when invoked from javascript on a web page, purely the fault of the browser, not Java.

 

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