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mckeonj
46644.  Wed Jan 18, 2006 8:00 pm Reply with quote

Diddling is related to Fiddling, but not as you might think, in connection with lying or cheating, or even creative accounting. (cue klaxon)
No, diddling is 'mouth music', a kind of wordless singing to accompany dancing, and a feature of 'Celtic' culture. If, when dancing is to be done, there is no fiddle or other instrument available, then the dancing master will 'diddle' the tune. He carries a repertoire of tunes in his head, and can bring them out in fiddle or voice on demand. In earlier times, in Scotland and Ireland, the playing of musical instruments was forbidden, as was the wearing of certain clothing, and the practice of a certain religion. Even today, mouth music may be called for if the fiddler fails to show up, for whatever reason.

 
djgordy
46645.  Wed Jan 18, 2006 8:28 pm Reply with quote

To be fair to the klaxonated masses, diddling and fiddling are also connected in the sense of them both meaning to cheat.

 
Gray
46663.  Thu Jan 19, 2006 6:35 am Reply with quote

Hibernian scat, then?

Q: What have higland cowpats got to do with dancing?

 
mckeonj
46673.  Thu Jan 19, 2006 7:26 am Reply with quote

Perhaps the QI question could be put thus:
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In what way does diddling differ from fiddling?

 
Tas
46682.  Thu Jan 19, 2006 7:59 am Reply with quote

Quote:
Q: What have higland cowpats got to do with dancing?


Highland Fling?

:-)

Tas

 
Jenny
46697.  Thu Jan 19, 2006 11:35 am Reply with quote

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Q: What have higland cowpats got to do with dancing?


Don't know about dancing, but it's a legitimate sport in parts of the USA, especially in Beaver, Oklahoma, the proudly self-proclaimed home of the World Cowchip Throwing Championship®

http://www.roadsideamerica.com/attract/OKBEAchip.html

 
gerontius grumpus
46756.  Fri Jan 20, 2006 5:19 am Reply with quote

Is this why a lot of Irish music goes 'Diddly diddly diddly?'

 
Tas
46760.  Fri Jan 20, 2006 5:43 am Reply with quote

It is common around here to call it 'Diddly-diddly' music!

:-)

Tas

 
djgordy
46772.  Fri Jan 20, 2006 6:39 am Reply with quote

Jenny wrote:
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Q: What have higland cowpats got to do with dancing?


Don't know about dancing, but it's a legitimate sport in parts of the USA, especially in Beaver, Oklahoma, the proudly self-proclaimed home of the World Cowchip Throwing Championship®

http://www.roadsideamerica.com/attract/OKBEAchip.html


The prizes are rubbish though; all you get is a pat on the head.

Boom boom.

 
Gray
46814.  Fri Jan 20, 2006 9:05 am Reply with quote

I think a diddling-dancing-dung-beetles thread suggests itself here.

 
tetsabb
46933.  Fri Jan 20, 2006 7:49 pm Reply with quote

I have encountered 'diddling' in use in a US TV series as a euphemism for.. er... 'It'... er....'nookie'.. you know...

 
Celebaelin
46944.  Fri Jan 20, 2006 8:06 pm Reply with quote

And in "Carry On Dick" (note that surprisingly there's no comma)

"Well you ain't been diddled as often as I 'ave."

 
djgordy
46950.  Sat Jan 21, 2006 3:55 am Reply with quote

There are hundreds words that can be used as a euphemism for nookie - especially in the context of a Carry On film.

 
gerontius grumpus
46952.  Sat Jan 21, 2006 4:37 am Reply with quote

Isn't it what Ken Dodd used to do before meeting the diddy men, and they always asked how he was doing it?

Perhaps the diddy men know how to diddle nowadays, because it's a long time since I've heard them ask.

 
samivel
46954.  Sat Jan 21, 2006 4:45 am Reply with quote

I thought it was what Ken Dodd did before meeting the tax man ;)

 

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