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AlmondFacialBar
898521.  Tue Apr 03, 2012 3:34 am Reply with quote

So over breakfast I found an article about this here:

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/articles/323144/20120403/humans-sound-smurfs-venus.htm

I like to think of myself as an open minded person, and I honestly spent pretty much the entire 15 minutes of my morning break trying to figure out what this research could be good for, but at this stage I've pretty much given up. So, all you clever people - how exactly does it help the advancement of science to know what an ice volcanoe on Titan would sound like to human ears? Nevermind the human voice on Venus... Thanks!

:-)

AlmondFacialBar

 
Neotenic
898527.  Tue Apr 03, 2012 4:00 am Reply with quote

Clearly, what we need is a practical experiment to validate the results.

I propose sending Jedward, Simon Cowell, Gillian McKeith and Jim Davidson to Venus, then observing the effects.

 
tetsabb
898542.  Tue Apr 03, 2012 4:26 am Reply with quote

And the next Republican convention to be held on Olympus Mons?

 
Moosh
898564.  Tue Apr 03, 2012 5:05 am Reply with quote

Quote:
Scientists created these unique sounds by using some tools and techniques that helped them recreate sounds like lightning on Venus to whirlwinds on Mars and ice volcanoes on Saturn's moon, Titan. In addition to these natural sounds, they have modelled the effects of different atmospheres, pressures and temperatures on the human voice on Mars, Venus and Titan (Saturn's largest moon).


That's the key paragraph. They were studying what you'd actually hear on these planets, whirlwinds and so on. Once you've done the work there, it's very easy to apply it to human voices so you have something that the media will be interested in and print.

People often moan about pointless research, without realising that what they hear about is selected by what journalists think will sell, not by what's important. So you get people like this who do serious research, then at the end whip up something silly that makes your voice sound like a smurf because if they hadn't then that article would have never existed.

 
AlmondFacialBar
898567.  Tue Apr 03, 2012 5:07 am Reply with quote

I fully realise that the smurf bit was only tacked on for media exposure, that's why I chose the ice volcanoes on Titan as my prime example. As in, what's the point of the entire project?

:-)

AlmondFacialBar

 
Moosh
898578.  Tue Apr 03, 2012 5:29 am Reply with quote

Oh. The point is that we now know something we didn't know before. What other point do you need?

 
AlmondFacialBar
898586.  Tue Apr 03, 2012 5:38 am Reply with quote

Moosh wrote:
Oh. The point is that we now know something we didn't know before. What other point do you need?


Hm yeah, fair enough. It's just that for once in my life I can't think of any possible application for the reasearch at all at all. I mean, finding the Higgs or resolving the Goldbach conjecture will probably reveal fundamental properties of the universe, but knowing what a methane fall on another planet would sound like to us? Sorry, I just don't get it. Sounds like some post grad was just a little too desperate for a project...

:-)

AlmondFacialBar

 
Moosh
898597.  Tue Apr 03, 2012 5:51 am Reply with quote

*shrug* studying the atmosphere on other planets probably has some application to the study of atmosphere on this planet, but I don't know if that's relevant to what they've done.

I dunno, I just don't understand the entire "applications" bit of research. You study things because they're interesting, who cares if it's useful?

 
soup
898662.  Tue Apr 03, 2012 7:02 am Reply with quote

Moosh wrote:
who cares if it's useful?


The people who pay for the research.

 
AlmondFacialBar
898681.  Tue Apr 03, 2012 7:13 am Reply with quote

soup wrote:
Moosh wrote:
who cares if it's useful?


The people who pay for the research.


Yup, and the people with the money are usually not pure science types, so obviously someone somewhere saw a use for that kind of research, and I wonder what it could be. Yes, you do study things because they're interesting, but unfortunately what's interesting to the researcher is quite often not half as interesting to the department head with the cheque book.

:-)

AlmondFacialBar

 
Moosh
898689.  Tue Apr 03, 2012 7:18 am Reply with quote

Pah, philistines. Do people not realise that the whole purpose of society is to support pure research? And more specifically to support my pure research ;)

 
AlmondFacialBar
898698.  Tue Apr 03, 2012 7:25 am Reply with quote

I was deeply impressed with the area of your PhD research. Went straight over my head, but sounded extremely scholarly... :-p

:-)

AlmondFacialBar

 
tetsabb
898749.  Tue Apr 03, 2012 9:43 am Reply with quote

A few weeks ago it was announced that CERN was getting close to establishing the existence or otherwise of the Higgs boson*. A BBC News anchor was talking to a scientist and asking what the point of this research was. She reacted pretty much like Moosh above, saying that it was simply more insight into the origin of the Universe and research for its own sake.
I feel myself agreeing with Moosh and the scientist I mentioned -- it seems we find out X, and then that raises question Y, and, being the inquisitive little beasties we are, we go on, even if there is no practical benefit in the short term.
I do wonder sometimes how much funding CERN, for example, gets from the military, just on the off chance.....

*Somewhere I saw someone had mis-typed 'Higgs bison'. The image remains.

 
AlmondFacialBar
898754.  Tue Apr 03, 2012 9:47 am Reply with quote

tetsabb wrote:
A few weeks ago it was announced that CERN was getting close to establishing the existence or otherwise of the Higgs boson*. A BBC News anchor was talking to a scientist and asking what the point of this research was. She reacted pretty much like Moosh above, saying that it was simply more insight into the origin of the Universe and research for its own sake.
I feel myself agreeing with Moosh and the scientist I mentioned -- it seems we find out X, and then that raises question Y, and, being the inquisitive little beasties we are, we go on, even if there is no practical benefit in the short term.
I do wonder sometimes how much funding CERN, for example, gets from the military, just on the off chance.....

*Somewhere I saw someone had mis-typed 'Higgs bison'. The image remains.


As mentioned above, what they do at CERn totally makes sense to me. Listening to extraterristrial volcanoes does not. And that mental image is awe-inspiring.

:-)

AlmondFacialBar

 
bemahan
898759.  Tue Apr 03, 2012 9:51 am Reply with quote

tetsabb wrote:
A few weeks ago it was announced that CERN was getting close to establishing the existence or otherwise of the Higgs boson*.

*Somewhere I saw someone had mis-typed 'Higgs bison'. The image remains.

I misread your post as Higgs bosom.

 

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