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'yorz
930663.  Tue Aug 07, 2012 1:08 pm Reply with quote

suze wrote:
rhyming slang (bracket and hinge, which rhymes with another body part altogether).


Please enlighten me.

 
bemahan
930667.  Tue Aug 07, 2012 1:15 pm Reply with quote

Minge, I think.

I actually came on to this thead to see if the word 'frock' has been mentioned. I used it the other day and bemafamily fell about laughing and bemad. asked if I'd been born in Tudor times.
Does anyone else out there still talk about frocks?

 
'yorz
930669.  Tue Aug 07, 2012 1:20 pm Reply with quote

Minge? I thought that was a verb, meaning smelling badly.

 
Strawberry
930673.  Tue Aug 07, 2012 1:24 pm Reply with quote

It is but it's also a noun, meaning vagina.

 
'yorz
930674.  Tue Aug 07, 2012 1:27 pm Reply with quote

O dearie me. Still a lot to learn. :(
Thanks, Strawberry.

 
bemahan
930676.  Tue Aug 07, 2012 1:28 pm Reply with quote

Obviously the two meanings aren't related.

 
Strawberry
930677.  Tue Aug 07, 2012 1:30 pm Reply with quote

'yorz wrote:
O dearie me. Still a lot to learn. :(
Thanks, Strawberry.


:) It's all right.

 
exnihilo
930678.  Tue Aug 07, 2012 1:33 pm Reply with quote

Surely the verb is 'ming'? The OED recognises 'minge' as a verb but has it as to discharge urine. The verb is early C17th from the Latin mingere, to urinate, the noun is a C20th coining of "obscure origin".

(Although 'ming' in the modern sense is not in the second edition, the word 'ming' does appear as a verb meaning to put in mind or to recollect and as a noun meaning a mixture.)

 
Strawberry
930682.  Tue Aug 07, 2012 1:39 pm Reply with quote

bemahan wrote:
Minge, I think.

I actually came on to this thead to see if the word 'frock' has been mentioned. I used it the other day and bemafamily fell about laughing and bemad. asked if I'd been born in Tudor times.
Does anyone else out there still talk about frocks?


i don't often hear people use the word frock in real life. When i used the Search function i found three pages of results, though.

 
sally carr
930694.  Tue Aug 07, 2012 2:09 pm Reply with quote

I bought a new frock the other day, I now have four frocks. I love my new frock and I am going to wear it once the bloody weather improves again. Tell those people to stop laughing.

 
suze
930764.  Tue Aug 07, 2012 5:49 pm Reply with quote

exnihilo wrote:
Surely the verb is 'ming'? The OED recognises 'minge' as a verb but has it as to discharge urine.


The verb meaning "to smell bad" is ming, yes. C20, originally Scottish (Chambers was the first major dictionary to include it), etymology unknown.

The noun minge, the female genitalia, is from Romani. Even now Romani spelling is rather fluid, but the most common spelling is mintš (pronounced "minch"). So far as anyone knows, entirely unrelated to the verb above.

 
Efros
930768.  Tue Aug 07, 2012 5:58 pm Reply with quote

I wonder what the origin of Minch is, as in the gap between the west of Scotland mainland and Lewis.

 
suze
930779.  Tue Aug 07, 2012 6:12 pm Reply with quote

I wondered about that while I was writing the previous post.

The best I can do so far is to note that it's not Gaelic (in Gaelic that bit of water is called An Cuan Sgėth = The Skye Sea) and it's not Norse (they called it Skotlandsfjörđ, which should be pretty obvious).

The next most likely origin is I suppose English, and it just might be something to do with the surname Minchin. That's Old English and means "nun" (mynecen); it's generally imagined that it started as a joke and was applied to someone decidedly unholy. (After all, a surname applied to someone who really was a nun would struggle to propagate.)

But whether The Minch has anything to do with that name, and if so why, I fear I don't know.

 
Leith
930798.  Tue Aug 07, 2012 6:46 pm Reply with quote

Or French (ā la "la Manche"), perhaps?

 
Efros
930799.  Tue Aug 07, 2012 6:51 pm Reply with quote

Possibly, la manche means sleeve, pertains to the shape of the English Channel, The Minch is similarly tapered. TBH the Auld Alliance not withstanding I don't think that's it.

 

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