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874427.  Mon Jan 02, 2012 6:00 am Reply with quote

The question about Turkish Ice Cream from orchid tubersd had one minor slip. It said the orchid used was the early purple.

I remembered it differently as in it was some big brownish orchid begining with B. I've had a quick google and found that is what is stated in wikipedia and several newspaper articles that it is the early purple orchid.

However I've found a more authoritative original source that says it is a large number of orchid genera and species, including the one I was thinking of Barlia.

The article is a pdf

This is my first post here and now i am going to have to lie down.

874568.  Mon Jan 02, 2012 10:50 am Reply with quote

Welcome chamomileshark (great username, btw) and thanks - we love to be corrected here :-)

874592.  Mon Jan 02, 2012 11:27 am Reply with quote


You may have already guessed the original of the name.

It's a moth, one of those poetic but apparently nonsensical names when you conjoin a family name (e.g the Shark moths - named from the shape of the wing) with someother descriptor - possibly the foodplant.

So you have;

Autumnal Snout (and it's cousins the Beautiful Snout and Buttoned Snout)
Buff Footman (and the Feathered Footman)
Dark Dagger
Essex Emerald
Fortified Carpet (and the Oblique Carpet)
Flounced Rustic
Garden Tiger (and the Scarlet Tiger)
Goosefoot Pug
Ingrailed Clay
Lead Belle
Least Minor
Manchester treble-Bar

Then you have the somewhat strange "The Confused" "The Conformist", "The Non Conformist" "The Geometrician"

I could go on..and on.

874600.  Mon Jan 02, 2012 11:39 am Reply with quote

Welcome, Chamomileshark! (beware of the Apostrophe Nazis)

874605.  Mon Jan 02, 2012 11:48 am Reply with quote

I don't worry about them. They are usually too busy fighting with the, comma communist's

874609.  Mon Jan 02, 2012 11:55 am Reply with quote

On your head be it.

874631.  Mon Jan 02, 2012 12:28 pm Reply with quote

I love those names, and hope we can use them in the M (for moth) series. Unless you can think of a J connection, or an L connection (woohoo - Lepidoptera!) that's another two years.

874647.  Mon Jan 02, 2012 1:09 pm Reply with quote

Welcome, chamomileshark. Interesting article on salep. I'd read a little on it previously whilst learning about the plants in my local woods (didn't catch the mention on QI, which episode was it?). There's a reference to a similar sounding drink in one of QI's favourite sources. From a previous post:
Pliny the Elder speaks of a drink named Satyrion, also made from ground orchid roots:
Pliny the Elder, The Natural History, BOOK XXVI

I like those moth names, too. The Scorched Carpet and the Setaceous Hebrew Character are two of my favourites.

874761.  Mon Jan 02, 2012 6:15 pm Reply with quote

Hi, Chamomileshark; welcome to QI.

875655.  Thu Jan 05, 2012 7:02 pm Reply with quote

Welcome chamomileshark. I like your user name, too.
I see that now you have posted no fewer than 6 times, so I hope you are enjoying a loooong lie-down.

I also love the name Flounced Rustic -- vision of a farmer having a hissy fit.


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