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simonp
29052.  Mon Oct 31, 2005 10:26 am Reply with quote

It seems strange but several news souces today are writing about the proposed alcohol ban on public transport, busses and trains. The reasoning is such that banning alcohol would prevent violent behaviour. However as I understand the law, alcohol consumption is already illiegal on busses. (unless i've been misinformed) Which would make that part of the new law pointless.
Or perhaps Tony et al are trying to distract the press from another more damaging news story?

 
laidbacklazyman
29057.  Mon Oct 31, 2005 10:33 am Reply with quote

simonp wrote:
However as I understand the law, alcohol consumption is already illiegal on busses.


You're not wrong there, although the staff are advised to be "sensible" about telling those offenders they aren't allowed to do it.

Personally speaking I always remind them that they aren't allowed to do it and if I see them they will have to get off he bus, of course what I don't see I can't do anything about.
I tend to find the passengers I carry are sensible, even the children are clever enough to work out that if you give respect you get respect, they know where the line is and what will happen if they cross it. Unlike some of the people my colleagues have to put up with

 
simonp
234793.  Sat Nov 24, 2007 7:00 pm Reply with quote

Pneumatic tyres were only legalised (on buses) by the Meteropolitan Police in the 1920's.
Buses with solid tyres were still in use as service vehicles up untill the 1950's!

 
simonp
452868.  Mon Dec 08, 2008 6:33 am Reply with quote

crissdee wrote:
Slightly off-topic, but I just saw him on Top Gear and he seemed like a thouroughly decent egg. As he has already scrapped the extension to the London Congestion Charge and he promises to scrap those f*****g bendybuses, he's ok by me!


Taken from the Boris Johnson thread, but this seemed to be a more approprate place for my question.

What is the problem with articulated buses?

 
nitwit02
453279.  Mon Dec 08, 2008 10:47 pm Reply with quote

We have lots of 'bendy' buses over here. Why don't people like them in the UK?

 
Sadurian Mike
453283.  Mon Dec 08, 2008 10:59 pm Reply with quote

Possibly it's as simple as Londoners liking their iconic red double-deckers and bendy buses looking alien and foreign on the London streets.

For me they just don't sit right, like seeing an old red BT telephone box in Paris or a chalet in Egypt.

 
nitwit02
453285.  Mon Dec 08, 2008 11:03 pm Reply with quote

You've got something there Mike. I hear that the lovely red phone booths are almost gone now (sob) - but surely the red DD is still around?

 
bobwilson
453293.  Mon Dec 08, 2008 11:25 pm Reply with quote

Quote:
So there you have it. It's due to traffic, delays, and passengers. I could have told them that. Could I have £1m, please?


I think garrick should get the million. It was bloody obvious to me but he did say it first.

As for why no buses turn up - I've got that one cracked too.

The bus operators don't want to run buses that don't turn a profit. I have a marvellous proof for this (if anyone's offering a million pound prize) but sadly i can't post it here in case someone from Leeds University claims it.

 
bobwilson
453294.  Mon Dec 08, 2008 11:26 pm Reply with quote

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What is the problem with articulated buses?


If you mean bendy buses - they're bloody dangerous to cyclists.

 
Sadurian Mike
453308.  Mon Dec 08, 2008 11:51 pm Reply with quote

nitwit02 wrote:
You've got something there Mike. I hear that the lovely red phone booths are almost gone now (sob) - but surely the red DD is still around?

I've not been to London since the QI recording and I only nipped across from the train station then. I've not really had a chance to look out for the buses for many years, so you'd be better asking someone local.

 
simonp
453362.  Tue Dec 09, 2008 4:42 am Reply with quote

bobwilson wrote:
Quote:
What is the problem with articulated buses?


If you mean bendy buses - they're bloody dangerous to cyclists.


bendy/articulated.

In what way are they dangerous? why is there not a campaign to remove these
from the streets too?

 
Davini994
453600.  Tue Dec 09, 2008 10:30 am Reply with quote

IIRC, there were some increased dangerous incidents on first introduction, but the picture from abroad and after this wasn't any worse.

By the way, TfL did a study a couple of months back on the cost of replacing - £12.6m per annum, on 3 routes.

It also looks like us outside of London might get some of the buses from the fallout when Boris finally gets rid of them in 2015. Cool!

 
simonp
453625.  Tue Dec 09, 2008 11:21 am Reply with quote

Cascading. When a bus company renews its fleet in one area and passes the secondhand buses to its provincial arms, usually followed by selling off the very oldest vehicles. The contracts that firms are given by Tfl in some cases specify the age of vehicles (and the recent LEZ has tightened this still further) and when they can no longer be used in London.
I'm looking forward to articulated buses being sold off/transferred, as i believe the company i work for is considering them for one of our routes :-)

 
suze
453654.  Tue Dec 09, 2008 12:25 pm Reply with quote

nitwit02 wrote:
surely the red DD is still around?


There are still red double deck vehicles trundling around the streets of London, yes.

But very few of them are the traditional Routemasters any more. Those were officially retired in 2005, but continued to be used for some services on routes 9 and 15.

As far as I can tell, the only other places that still use them for scheduled service are Edinburgh and Montréal (in both cases, for a route intended more as a tour of the city than as a transportation service).

 
IronMonkey
513814.  Sat Feb 28, 2009 5:10 am Reply with quote

I've read a book with the title Why Do Buses Come In Threes and it is Quite Interesting, it does explain it.

I have actually seen it happen because I live on a long bus route.

 

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