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39607.  Thu Dec 15, 2005 12:57 pm Reply with quote

It hasn't been conclusively proved whether the Llyrs are the same - I've been wading through screeds of academic discussion on the subject, and there's no agreement.

According to one source:
Several different Llyr are known: Llyr Lledieith, Llyr Merini, and finally Llyr, son of Bleidyt, made popular by Geoffrey of Monmouth, especially due to the history of his daughters Gonorilla, Regan and Cordelia

The Llyr of the Mabinogion has completely different offspring with entirely different stories.

Quaint Idiot
39617.  Thu Dec 15, 2005 2:09 pm Reply with quote

'Walnut' also shares the same root as 'Wales'. I believe that the original word had connotations of Romanness as well as foreignness. I can't remember my source for this offhand but I'll rummage around for it.

39647.  Thu Dec 15, 2005 3:08 pm Reply with quote

'Walnut' means 'foreign nut', from wealh (foreign) and hnutu (nut). 'Wealh' is the same as Welsh from the Germanic for 'foreign' that I mentioned earlier. The walnut is foreign because it was introduced from Gaul and Italy, unlike the native Hazel Nut.

gerontius grumpus
42022.  Thu Dec 29, 2005 2:30 am Reply with quote

Nadelek lowen...belatedly.


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