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Flash
835769.  Sat Jul 30, 2011 5:33 pm Reply with quote

That looks like a good quibble by maven. Haven't checked the OED, but Etymonline seems to back it up, anyway.

 
Posital
835772.  Sat Jul 30, 2011 5:42 pm Reply with quote

Jenny wrote:
Think also of merde, which is not an unacceptable word in France, even in polite company I think.
Remembers Genevieve - it was considered a little risqué to have this book in school...

 
rewboss
835821.  Sun Jul 31, 2011 2:35 am Reply with quote

Jenny wrote:
Think also of merde, which is not an unacceptable word in France, even in polite company I think.


And the opposite can happen, as one English mayor found to his cost giving a speech at a twinning ceremony. In an attempt to impress, he said a few words in French, intending to say that he wished to welcome the men and kiss their wives. Unfortunately, since his schooldays, the word "baiser" had acquired a related, but very different, meaning, and the menfolk were startled to hear that the mayor wanted to fornicate with their spouses.

 
'yorz
835832.  Sun Jul 31, 2011 4:06 am Reply with quote

Wrong. Baiser and baisser are different words. One means to kiss, the other to shag.
For pronunciation, click.

 
rewboss
835888.  Sun Jul 31, 2011 10:44 am Reply with quote

Close but no cigar. "Baisser" means "to lower", "to reduce". The popular misconception that it means "shag" comes from the fact that "Baisse-toi!" as a command means "Bend over!" often in order to receive a good shagging.

References:

http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/baiser
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=baiser
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/baisser
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=baisser

 
'yorz
835890.  Sun Jul 31, 2011 10:51 am Reply with quote

Did you deliberately bring the cigar into it?

Anyhoo - my knowledge of baiser/baisser was based on my extended séjour in Bruxelles. Which may account for different linguistic takes.
I take your/wiki's word for it.


Last edited by 'yorz on Sun Jul 31, 2011 10:53 am; edited 1 time in total

 
rewboss
835891.  Sun Jul 31, 2011 10:52 am Reply with quote

As Freud himself once said, sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. :)

 
'yorz
835894.  Sun Jul 31, 2011 11:03 am Reply with quote

Boring old fart he was.

Here's his Ballad.

 
rewboss
835898.  Sun Jul 31, 2011 12:00 pm Reply with quote

I'm sure that's a fantastic video, 'yorz, but it's blocked from Germany.

 
'yorz
835899.  Sun Jul 31, 2011 12:18 pm Reply with quote

Honest?! I thought YouTube was available all over the place. Do you have access to other sources?
It's the Chad Mitchell Trio, Return to Cargenie Hall album.

 
rewboss
835902.  Sun Jul 31, 2011 1:14 pm Reply with quote

YouTube is available in Germany. Unfortunately... you know how songwriters and performing artists are entitled to royalties when their music is performed? Well, there are organisations called "collecting societies" that collect royalties and distribute them to the artists. They usually do this by selling licences. The problem is, the German collecting society GEMA has, for a couple of years now, been demanding that YouTube fork out more for their broadcasting licence than YouTube reckons they could recoup through advertising. YouTube thinks that's a bit steep, and so, to cut a long story short, I get this: "Unfortunately, this SME-music-content is not available in Germany because GEMA has not granted the respective music publishing rights. Sorry about that."

(SME = Sony Music Entertainment, in case you're wondering.)

 
'yorz
835913.  Sun Jul 31, 2011 2:57 pm Reply with quote

I used to work for Buma/Stemra in the 1970s. Tedious work, having to go through all them weekly radio magazines to see if any CBS artists' output was played, and jot that on the related cards.
The only plus was the fact that we all could pick 4 LPs every month from the new releases, and 8 from the back catalogues. Was very popular with my friends, who always gave me long shopping lists :)

 
Spud McLaren
835928.  Sun Jul 31, 2011 4:09 pm Reply with quote

In today's terms that perk has to have been worth over £100 a month - not bad. I hope it wasn't compensated for by shit pay.

 
Posital
835934.  Sun Jul 31, 2011 4:30 pm Reply with quote

Spud McLaren wrote:
In today's terms that perk has to have been worth over £100 a month - not bad. I hope it wasn't compensated for by shit pay.
Unfortunately, mr taxman would want a cut of that... perhaps a couple of lines from each song?

 
'yorz
835939.  Sun Jul 31, 2011 4:41 pm Reply with quote

How did you guess, Spud? The other perk was the piano in my office. Lots of new CBS releases from other countries arrived, along with the sheet music. The bloke from across the corridor would come in regularly and give us a taster. Ah - great memories....

 

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