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Saerdna
1053674.  Wed Feb 05, 2014 2:47 am Reply with quote

this is from the time sweden were in war with danmark:

If the Öresund strait freezes and a Swede walks over to Denmark, Danes are allowed to him him with a stick.
Denmark


Im not sure if its still an active law, but I heard it was, ( I guess the danish government focus on more important decisions)

why the law is:
1658 karl/charles X marched over the ice, the ice had not been frozen for hundreds of years before or after.. so it really suprised the danish army.
so they told the danish "peasants" they could attack all the swedes who walked over the ice into danish land. but apparently only with a stick. (if I saw an enemy force marching towards me, I would just throw my stick and run)

however both the background and the law is quite interesting

please correct my facts if something is wrong or missing


edit: Someone told me karl X marched over "Great Belt" not öresund.
(im bad in danish geography)

 
Dix
1053776.  Wed Feb 05, 2014 8:51 am Reply with quote

Great belt is right. He came in the back way, having taken a detour via Poland, various bits of Germany, etc.
There is a street in what is now the north-west outskirts of Copenhagen called "Svenskelejren" - this was where the Swedish army camped during the siege of Copenhagen.

If there was ever such a "stick" law, it was probably repealed long ago. I've never heard of it.

What is perhaps interesting, is that one of the most popular destinations for Swedish tourists to visit in Copenhagen, Nyhavn, has a Swedish past. It's a small harbour area with the traditional attractions of women, beer and spirits (at least historically, now it's more food and beer). The harbour basin was dug out by Swedish prisoners of war.

 
Zebra57
1053823.  Wed Feb 05, 2014 11:21 am Reply with quote

During WW2 the area of Nyhavn was off limits to German military owing to its notorious reputation. It had long been a "leisure centre" for sailors and seekers of a Bohemian lifestyle. It's quayside buildings now occupied by upmarket eating establishments once were a centre of the Danish resistance.

 
Leith
1053871.  Wed Feb 05, 2014 4:12 pm Reply with quote

Saerdna wrote:
1658 karl/charles X marched over the ice, the ice had not been frozen for hundreds of years before or after.. so it really suprised the danish army.

The Gulf of Bothnia freezes rather more regularly, but the Swedish residents of Umeå were reported to be similarly surprised in 1809 at the approach of a Russian army, who had marched across the Kvarken from Finland, under General Barclay de Tolly: post 279465

 
Zebra57
1054236.  Fri Feb 07, 2014 8:53 am Reply with quote

Sweden has reduced the length of prison sentence for some drug offences. Consequently it has a declining prison population. Faced with potential prison overcrowding the Norwegians have contacted Sweden about sending some criminals over the border to be locked up. The initial response from Sweden was lukewarm.

 
CharliesDragon
1054357.  Fri Feb 07, 2014 3:57 pm Reply with quote

I don't see the problem, they already take our garbage. :P

 
Saerdna
1055065.  Tue Feb 11, 2014 6:34 am Reply with quote

Vikings
quite interesting summary.
http://www.history.com/topics/exploration/vikings-history/videos/bet-you-didnt-know-vikings
some I knew, some I didnt.


you could say we scandinavians loves to travel :)

 
CharliesDragon
1055089.  Tue Feb 11, 2014 7:40 am Reply with quote

That video was incredibly annoying, and I hate that so much that is technically interesting to know is presented in that way.

I knew most of it, except the vikings being hired as army men and tax collectors.

 
Zebra57
1055097.  Tue Feb 11, 2014 8:25 am Reply with quote

Ruotsi is the name used for Sweden in Finnish. The people from Scandinavia were known as Rus and the Anglo-Saxons referred to them as Danes. The word for Viking used by Germans also = pirate.

 
alai
1055752.  Thu Feb 13, 2014 7:49 pm Reply with quote

Zebra57 wrote:
Faced with potential prison overcrowding the Norwegians have contacted Sweden about sending some criminals over the border to be locked up. The initial response from Sweden was lukewarm.


Doubtless concerns were mooted about "cruel and unusual punishment".

 
Dix
1098468.  Sun Oct 19, 2014 4:29 pm Reply with quote

Apologies for incredibly large image, I'm linking to a Swedish news site.

They're having a fresh round of Russian sub -hunting in the Stockolm area right now.



Nessie on holiday, you say?

Back in the 80's there were similar sightings. All talk of hoaxing and monsters was silenced when they found a Russian sub firmly aground "on the rocks", as it were, of the Swedish coast. The sub was of a type that NATO refers to the Whiskey class. Oh, how the newspapers loved it.

 
duglasbell@hotmail.co.uk
1247755.  Mon Sep 04, 2017 1:37 pm Reply with quote

And here's one more QI fact about Sweden?

The first king of the Swedes is..??

The current king, Carl XVI Gustav. He awarded himself this title in 1973 on succeeding his grandfather to the throne. Previously all Swedish kings were known as 'Kings of the Swedes, Goths and Wends'.

Source: C Carpenter, The Guinness Book of Kings Rulers and Statesmen

 
suze
1247769.  Mon Sep 04, 2017 3:58 pm Reply with quote

Queen Margrethe II of Denmark made a comparable change to her title upon ascending the throne in 1972. Her father Christian X had ruled as King of Denmark, the Wends, and the Goths, but she adopted the style Queen of Denmark.

The Wends were never one group of people. Rather, it was a general name for any people of Slavic heritage living in otherwise Germanic territory.

Most Slavs in Germanic regions have been more or less assimilated over the last thousand years, much as surnames of Slavic origin are still common in Austria and Eastern Germany.

There are still perhaps 30,000 people in Eastern Germany who speak one of the two Sorbian languages (Dolnoserbski or Lower Sorbian and Hornjoserbšćina or Upper Sorbian), although almost all of these people speak at least two of Czech, German, and Polish as well. Those people are the last of the Wends, although they don't much care for the term.

At no time have the Sorbs been subject to either the Danish or the Swedish sovereign, and not since the Wendish Crusade of 1147 has either Scandinavian sovereign even expressed an interest in that direction.

 
AlmondFacialBar
1247968.  Wed Sep 06, 2017 3:51 am Reply with quote

Which is kind of weird if you consider the Swedish penchant for gherkins and the Sorbs' amazing talent for producing them...


Nom... Spreewälder Gurken!

:-)

AlmondFacialBar

 
gruff5
1248510.  Sat Sep 09, 2017 5:54 am Reply with quote

the worst country in the world for making friends:

https://www.indy100.com/article/sweden-worst-country-world-making-friends-7937581?utm_source=indy&utm_medium=top5&utm_campaign=i100

That chimes with my experience of living there. Polite, but reserved.

 

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