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legspin
793820.  Mon Mar 07, 2011 3:38 am Reply with quote

There was a boxing tournament held every year called the Celtic Youths. As the name suggests it was held between 15 and 16 year olds from Ireland, Scotland, Wales, Brittany and Newfoundland.

 
samivel
793850.  Mon Mar 07, 2011 5:25 am Reply with quote

Did Cornwall and the Isle of Man just not enter, or were they snubbed for not being Celtic enough?

 
legspin
793900.  Mon Mar 07, 2011 9:54 am Reply with quote

Actually I do think Cornwall was involved but not the Isle of Man.

It was the newefoundland bit I found strange until I was told that it was 'coz of all the Irish immigrants to that area

 
Efros
793910.  Mon Mar 07, 2011 11:17 am Reply with quote

There's a lot of Scots up that way too, they held the Royal National Mod in Nova Scotia a while back , there were more Scottish Gaelic only speakers there than there was in Scotland, not difficult to achieve as the last single language Gaelic speakers in Scotland died in the early 70s.

 
suze
793929.  Mon Mar 07, 2011 1:17 pm Reply with quote

There are still a couple of thousand speakers of Cape Breton Gaelic (i.e. Scottish Gaelic, although the distinctive pronunciation means that Scottish Gaels sometimes find it hard to understand). There are probably no first language speakers any more, largely because the use of Gaelic was more or less illegal during WWII (kids speaking Gaelic in school were beaten, and to use it on the telephone was an arrestable offence).

Newfoundland Irish is about gone by now - ten people on The Rock claimed it as their first language in the 2001 census, but no one has ever managed to find any of them. In truth, it was probably extinct as a first language by about 1930, and only a handful are by now able to speak it at all.

But there absolutely is a clear Irish influence on the English spoken in Newfoundland - especially among older people away from St John's.

Listen, for instance, to this sound clip (.mp3). The speaker who introduces the clip is an Irishman of longstanding residence in Canada, but the guy who follows and talks about rainbows is a Newfoundlander.

 
chrisboote
1027601.  Tue Oct 08, 2013 9:30 am Reply with quote

Things have moved on....
Dublin now has a population of just over 2m people - about 1.5m permanently resident - having almost doubled in size since 2009, while Ireland has a whole has a population of 5.5m, about 4.75m permanently resident
This makes it the EU country with the highest non permanent population, and the second highest proportion of people living in the capital after Singapore

In the 'Big Mac' index, used by a number of international companies, which compares prices based upon a basket of goods including, yes, a Big Mac, a can of coke, a next-day-delivery letter, a 500g box of cornflakes, an 800g loaf of bread, a litre of semi-skimmed milk and a bar of milk chocolate, and (crucially) renting a two bedroom apartment for one month, Dublin came out as the third most expensive capital city in the world after Oslo and Tokyo

Irish mobile telephone networks charge the world's highest prices for a basket of services

Beer in Dublin is the most expensive in the EU

BUT in the 'Happy Planet Index', showing the extent to which countries produce long, happy and sustainable lives for the people that live in them, Ireland comes 14/151 for general well being of its citizens, beaten only by Denmark, Sweden and Finland in the EU

It is also had top rated secondary education system in the world in the 2006 survey, although it is believed to have slipped a few places by 2013

Its citizens 'enjoy' the highest proportion of organic food in the EU in their diet, and consume more 'local' produce than any other EU country except France

So, a mixed bag

 
suze
1027631.  Tue Oct 08, 2013 10:48 am Reply with quote

chrisboote wrote:
This makes it the EU country with the highest non permanent population, and the second highest proportion of people living in the capital after Singapore


Did I miss Singapore's accession to the EU?

chrisboote wrote:
In the 'Big Mac' index, used by a number of international companies ... Dublin came out as the third most expensive capital city in the world after Oslo and Tokyo.


More serious question now. The Big Mac Index is indeed a cost-of-living measure which is often quoted, and for most of the world's major cities it has some validity.

But based on what I've heard from people who have been, Reykjavík is right up with Oslo and Dublin as one of the most expensive cities in Europe. It has no McDonald's though - there aren't any in Iceland - so this presumably means that its Big Mac Index cannot be calculated. What other measures can we use which do not exclude Reykjavík, and do they indeed show it up with Dublin and Oslo at the top of the list?

 
Efros
1027647.  Tue Oct 08, 2013 11:32 am Reply with quote

I can vouch for that I bought a bottle of beer in Reykjavik airport bar, which I think was duty free and it was $9 US, that was back in 2006.

 
AlmondFacialBar
1027690.  Tue Oct 08, 2013 2:50 pm Reply with quote

Fun fact about Iceland - life there is so expensive that people fly to Ireland to do their Christmas shopping. Only here life is so expensive we prefer to do our Christmas shopping in the States. In short - Icelandic prices must be truly horrendous.

:-)

AlmondFacialBar

 
Efros
1027693.  Tue Oct 08, 2013 3:46 pm Reply with quote

They used to do weekend runs to Glasgow as well, fly over Friday morning, shop all day, get hammered Friday night, repeat on Saturday and part of Sunday and then return on Sunday evening .

 
chrisboote
1027743.  Wed Oct 09, 2013 3:19 am Reply with quote

suze wrote:
chrisboote wrote:
This makes it the EU country with the highest non permanent population, and the second highest proportion of people living in the capital after Singapore


Did I miss Singapore's accession to the EU?

He he he
I should have said "the world's second highest proportion of people living in the capital"
Thanks

Quote:

chrisboote wrote:
In the 'Big Mac' index, used by a number of international companies ... Dublin came out as the third most expensive capital city in the world after Oslo and Tokyo.


More serious question now. The Big Mac Index is indeed a cost-of-living measure which is often quoted, and for most of the world's major cities it has some validity.

But based on what I've heard from people who have been, Reykjavík is right up with Oslo and Dublin as one of the most expensive cities in Europe. It has no McDonald's though - there aren't any in Iceland - so this presumably means that its Big Mac Index cannot be calculated. What other measures can we use which do not exclude Reykjavík, and do they indeed show it up with Dublin and Oslo at the top of the list?


I asked this question when I worked for Readers' Digest, and was told to shush, as they didn't send stuff to Iceland anyway

 
duglasbell@hotmail.co.uk
1315346.  Sun Mar 03, 2019 4:09 pm Reply with quote

What is Ireland's national colour?

Officially it doesn't have one.

The Constitution defines the green-white-orange tricolour as the national flag but doesn't specify a national colour.

In fact it's not entirely certain why the colour is popularly deemed to be green. Historically the strongest green emerged in the flag of the Confederation of Ireland (the era during which the Catholic bishops and noblemen tried to oust the Protestant powers from Dublin). Or it could simply be a reference to Ireland's rural landscape and its designation as the 'Emerald Isle'. Green certainly emerged with the rise of republican nationalism in the 19th century and a desire to separate Ireland from the reds and blues associated with England, Wales and Scotland. This is where the green in the national flag is said to be derived from.

A greater case could be made for using blue as the national colour. For example, Flaitheas Eireann, the embodiment of Irish sovereignty in mythological times wore blue. The crest of the Kingdom of Meath showed the ruler sitting on a green throne against a blue background. This historical connotation inspired Constance Markievicz to use the light blue as the background for the ‘Starry Plough’ flag of the Irish Citizen Army when it was formed in 1913 to defend trade unionists during the 1913 lockouts. That flag is still associated with modern Irish socialism. Additionally, the formal use of blue was first seen when Ireland was turned into a Kingdom in 1542 under the reign of King Henry VIII. Finally, when King George III wanted to create a new order of chivalry for Ireland and needed a new colour he found that dark blue was already in use for the Order of the Garter and so a lighter blue was used for the Order of St Patrick. This became known as St Patrick's Blue and is seen in various sporting liveries.


On independence it was decided to associate the newly-created Free State with the ancient Kingdom of Ireland and so the new coat-of-arms showed the golden harp on a blue background. This can be seen on the Presidential Standard. And also why the cover of the printed edition of the Constitution is blue and why the carpets in the Dail and Seanad are blue.


https://www.thejournal.ie/ireland-national-colour-blue-828597-Mar2013/

 
crissdee
1315357.  Sun Mar 03, 2019 5:28 pm Reply with quote

Do any countries have a national colour? Other than the old motor racing colours*, I can't think of any off hand.

*Britain - Green
Italy - Red
Germany - Silver
France - Blue
Argentina - White

they are the ones I can remember off-hand

 
'yorz
1315358.  Sun Mar 03, 2019 5:39 pm Reply with quote

Netherlands - orange

 
Alfred E Neuman
1315371.  Mon Mar 04, 2019 3:51 am Reply with quote

'yorz wrote:
Netherlands - orange

Isn’t that the national fruit? :-)

 

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