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mckeonj
854641.  Tue Oct 11, 2011 5:50 am Reply with quote

Just a variation of the conundrum from my schooldays (1939-51)
"All cats are black in the dark"

 
CB27
854671.  Tue Oct 11, 2011 7:20 am Reply with quote

Except the one with the smartphone who turned the torch app on.

 
aTao
854805.  Tue Oct 11, 2011 6:11 pm Reply with quote

mckeonj wrote:
Just a variation of the conundrum from my schooldays (1939-51)
"All cats are black in the dark"


All cats look black in the dark. The colour of an object is not defined by its appearance although we may try to determine its colour that way.

 
rozzy
914839.  Thu Jun 07, 2012 6:36 am Reply with quote

I thought I'd weigh in on this seeing as I am undertaking a music degree and listened to a lecture on this very topic:
Audiologists describe sound in two ways: as an acoustic event and as an auditory event. An acoustic event occurs when one thing bumps into another thing and causes a wave to form; an auditory event occurs when that sound is perceived by the ear. Sound is both a physical and an experiential phenomenon; the experience of sound is dependent on the physical phenomenon but is not identical to it. Therefore, if a tree falls in a forest and no one is around to hear it, an acoustic event has occurred, but not an auditory event.
By the way, I don't wish to argue against what people have been saying about perceived reality etc. Just thought it was interesting.

 
'yorz
914849.  Thu Jun 07, 2012 6:46 am Reply with quote

Welcome, rozzy! Now that's a decent piece of proper explaining.
*like-button*

 
exnihilo
914852.  Thu Jun 07, 2012 6:50 am Reply with quote

Indeed!

 
Posital
914954.  Thu Jun 07, 2012 9:53 am Reply with quote

rozzy wrote:
an auditory event occurs when that sound is perceived by the ear.
Perceived by the mind, shurely...

PS: Welcome.

 
'yorz
914959.  Thu Jun 07, 2012 10:16 am Reply with quote

Posital, are you one of these people who, when a piece of writing lands on their desk in which the author asks kinda pro forma for a few to read it and initial it, then for some bizarre reason cannot let it pass without the slightest addition/correction? ;-p

 
aTao
914971.  Thu Jun 07, 2012 10:28 am Reply with quote

Posital wrote:
rozzy wrote:
an auditory event occurs when that sound is perceived by the ear.
Perceived by the mind, shurely...

PS: Welcome.


Shurely??

 
'yorz
914973.  Thu Jun 07, 2012 10:30 am Reply with quote

A vocal microphone! What next?!

 
Strawberry
914976.  Thu Jun 07, 2012 10:34 am Reply with quote

Hi, Rozzy; welcome to QI.

 
Spud McLaren
915021.  Thu Jun 07, 2012 12:16 pm Reply with quote

'yorz wrote:
A vocal microphone! What next?!
Yeah - for recording vocals, as opposed to recording drums, guitars, ants mating, etc.

Plus, it gives you a bollocking if you hit a bum note.

 
Posital
915023.  Thu Jun 07, 2012 12:24 pm Reply with quote

Spud McLaren wrote:
'yorz wrote:
A vocal microphone! What next?!
Yeah - for recording vocals, as opposed to recording drums, guitars, ants mating, etc. Plus, it gives you a bollocking if you hit a bum note.
Only Legendary Vocals, to be exact :P

 
Posital
915024.  Thu Jun 07, 2012 12:26 pm Reply with quote

'yorz wrote:
Posital, are you one of these people who, when a piece of writing lands on their desk in which the author asks kinda pro forma for a few to read it and initial it, then for some bizarre reason cannot let it pass without the slightest addition/correction? ;-p
Soz - had my academic head on at the time...

 
Spud McLaren
915028.  Thu Jun 07, 2012 12:44 pm Reply with quote

Posital wrote:
Spud McLaren wrote:
'yorz wrote:
A vocal microphone! What next?!
Yeah - for recording vocals, as opposed to recording drums, guitars, ants mating, etc. Plus, it gives you a bollocking if you hit a bum note.
Only Legendary Vocals, to be exact :P
Missed that; sorry.

 

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