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Ian Dunn
745041.  Mon Sep 20, 2010 1:26 pm Reply with quote

Here is some interesting information on ice cream.

The Glasgow Ice Cream Wars

In 1980s Glasgow, ice cream vendors got involved in violent fights over the rights to selling ice cream in certain spots. Not only that, but vendors also sold other things not normally sold in ice cream vans - such as drugs and stolen goods.

The vendors got involved in gun fights with each other, shooting at each others windscreens. Police cars were ordered to follow ice cream vans, with the locals nicknaming the police the "serious chimes squad".

The violence got so bad that eventually on 16 April 1984 six members of the Doyle family were killed in an arson attack after one Andrew Doyle refused to sell drugs in his van and resisted attempts from take overs.

Six people were arrested, two in connection with the murders. Thomas "T C" Campbell and Joe Steele were convicted, with the jury giving an unanimous verdict. They were given life sentences but the verdict was then quashed in 2004. They were in jail for 20 years.

However, it was not the end of Scottish ice cream vans being used for crime. In 2001 they were used to sell smuggled cigarettes outside schools in Glasgow, Lanarkshire and Ayrshire. A more recent example happened this May in Wales, where one ice cream sold fags to 11-year-olds.

The Ambridge Ice Cream Wars

Around the time of ice cream wars in Glasgow, a similar but much less violent incident was taking place in The Archers between 1984-85.

During this period Nigel Pargetter and Elizabeth Archer (before they got married - that was on 29 September 1994) both ran rival ice cream vans. Nigel, who was between jobs at the time, was "Mr Snowy", whose van played "The Teddy Bears Picinc". Elizabeth was a student, and was "Ms Snowy", whose van played "Greensleeves".

The only piece of controversy taking place in this ice cream war was when both vans converged on Ambridge village green and tried to tempt the children who were getting off the school bus to buy some ice cream. Pat Archer was furious.

Ice Cream Adverts

In September an advert for Antonio Fedirici ice cream was banned by the Advertising Standards Authority because it was believed it was offensive to Christians, especially Catholics.

The advert depicted a pregnant nun eating the ice cream and featured the strapline "Immaculately conceived". There were 10 complaints. The ASA decided that image and strapline was, "likely to be seen as a distortion and mockery of the beliefs of Roman Catholics. We concluded that to use such an image in a light hearted way to advertise ice-cream was likely to cause serious offence to readers, particularly those who practised the Roman Catholic faith."

Gelato University

The "Gelato University" in Bologna offers courses in how to make and serve ice cream. Over 6,000 people attend the universty every year, most of whom are looking for a change in career.

Ice Cream Chimes

Perhaps the strangest ice cream chimes ever heard were on the BBC Radio 7 sci-fi comedy Undone. Set in the version of London "where the weirdness comes from", the episode "Unrelated" (Series 2, Episode 3) features an ice cream van which has depressing songs as chimes. The songs were "Heaven Knows I'm Miserable Now" and "Love Will Tear Us Apart".

Other comedic chimes to have appeared include one in a sketch in That Mitchell and Webb Sound involving an ice cream van partly run by Death. The van plays Chopin's "Funeral March".

When Harry Hill appeared on Room 101 he got rid of ice cream vans. Paul Merton suggested a savory alternative of the mashed potato van, where the chimes were "Suicide is Painless" - the theme from M*A*S*H.

Sources
* Wikipedia: Glasgow Ice Cream Wars
* BBC News: Ice cream ploy by tobacco sellers
* BBC News: Pontypool ice cream men sold cigarettes to children
* The Archers Miscellany (p. 232)
* The Guardian: Ice-cream advert featuring pregnant nun is banned
* BBC News: Italy offers lessons in ice cream at Gelato University

 
Jenny
745146.  Mon Sep 20, 2010 5:14 pm Reply with quote

It seems so obvious I can't think why nobody thought of it before, but one enterprising British man has made it his mission to bring ice cream vans to the Middle East, where apparently they did not previously exist.

 
plinkplonk
745160.  Mon Sep 20, 2010 5:55 pm Reply with quote

Jenny wrote:
It seems so obvious I can't think why nobody thought of it before, but one enterprising British man has made it his mission to bring ice cream vans to the Middle East, where apparently they did not previously exist.


Apparently, Jenny? Ice cream vans are a Western phenomenon (apart from some parts of Venice of course, where they prefer a singing gondalier).

 
Efros
745169.  Mon Sep 20, 2010 6:31 pm Reply with quote

Glaswegian ice cream vans sell ice cream but that is merely a sideline. Basically they developed out of the bonkers post war housing schemes that had lots of housing and virtually no amenities, like shops. Consequently ice cream vans there sell everything, you used to be able to rent videos from them, you can certainly buy duty free tobacco products amongst other smoking comestibles!

 
Ian Dunn
745191.  Tue Sep 21, 2010 2:18 am Reply with quote

It reminds me of an early Peter Kay programme in which he played an ice cream man where not only did he sell ice cream but also porn (or as he called it "adult art").

 
Bondee
745405.  Tue Sep 21, 2010 4:13 pm Reply with quote

The Ice Cream Man Cometh.

Quote:
little boy who's just bought an ice cream: I've got sauce, dad!
dad, who's just bought porn: So have I, son!

 
Efros
745406.  Tue Sep 21, 2010 4:17 pm Reply with quote

plinkplonk wrote:
Jenny wrote:
It seems so obvious I can't think why nobody thought of it before, but one enterprising British man has made it his mission to bring ice cream vans to the Middle East, where apparently they did not previously exist.


Apparently, Jenny? Ice cream vans are a Western phenomenon (apart from some parts of Venice of course, where they prefer a singing gondalier).


We had the ice cream man on a motorbike in Singapore when I was a kid, but that was more than likely the British influence there.

 

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