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740096.  Mon Sep 06, 2010 6:26 am Reply with quote

Sorry djgordy but there are several of those.
wiki says so, must be true then!

740151.  Mon Sep 06, 2010 8:14 am Reply with quote

Did I say "is"? Obviously I meant "isn't" hem hem......

740375.  Mon Sep 06, 2010 1:39 pm Reply with quote

Methinks that the author of the Wiki piece is stretching things a bit

740404.  Mon Sep 06, 2010 3:05 pm Reply with quote

Authors - more than one... just goes to show how useful a committee is...

740436.  Mon Sep 06, 2010 4:22 pm Reply with quote

Even old New York was once New Amsterdam
Why they changed it I can't say
People just liked it better that way

If it were only that simple....
Wiki says...

740438.  Mon Sep 06, 2010 4:25 pm Reply with quote

New Amsterdam it's become much too much
'Til I have the possession of everything she touches
'Til I step on the brakes to get out of her clutches
'Til I speak Double Dutch to a real double duchess

740489.  Mon Sep 06, 2010 6:06 pm Reply with quote

wiki wrote:
However, in the Third Anglo-Dutch War, the Dutch recaptured New Netherland in July 1673 and installed Anthony Colve as New Netherland's first Governor (previously there had only been West India Company Directors), and the city was renamed "New Orange".

New Orange!! Now that's what I call interesting - thanks 'yorz

740491.  Mon Sep 06, 2010 6:09 pm Reply with quote

I had never heard of New Netherland myself!

Must google for other Nether Regions.

Spud McLaren
740492.  Mon Sep 06, 2010 6:11 pm Reply with quote

Fruity place, innit?

New Orange
New Hamster Jam
The Big Apple
New Yorkie - oh, hang on...

740494.  Mon Sep 06, 2010 6:17 pm Reply with quote

New Yoke

TFB - have to get up at 06.00 :(

'Night all

740710.  Tue Sep 07, 2010 10:29 am Reply with quote

Going back to the original subject of Istanbul, Venice has many marks of Istanbul, or as it was known at the time Byzantium, with the mosaics of St Marks, and created many example of Byzantine art. The number of Byzantine exiles in Italy, Venice especially, could well have lead to the Italian Renaissance, which occurred when the Byzantium Empire broke up. Byzantium's loss was Italy's gain.

741918.  Fri Sep 10, 2010 9:42 am Reply with quote

Venice also has a very impressive collection of Byzantine art that was 'removed' to the city as a result of the Fourth Crusade as well as the Byzantine Crown Jewels which were pawned to pay for the defence of Christendom. The story of Constantinople's fall, and of the tragic figures of the last few Emperors touring Europe (in a filed attempt) to secure support is a very sad one indeed.

746292.  Sat Sep 25, 2010 6:52 am Reply with quote

MY great-great grandfather was keeper of the Sultan's mint in Constantinople. According to family tradition anyhoo.

Sadurian Mike
746305.  Sat Sep 25, 2010 7:34 am Reply with quote

746314.  Sat Sep 25, 2010 7:58 am Reply with quote

'yorz wrote:
I had never heard of New Netherland myself!

Must google for other Nether Regions.

Don't forget Nederland, Colorado, the town a few miles up west of me. Yes, up west. I'm at 5,641 feet, and Ned's at 8,233 feet. It's up west, at 40 0′ 10″ N, 105 1′ 43″ W. Not very nether if you ask me, unless perhaps you're coming from a perspective of being above local timberline (about 11,500–12,000 feet.)

Ned is an old mining town, full of hippy-types and giant shovels, now notorious for its Frozen Dead Guy festival. This macabre event is filled with family fun like coffin races. IIRC, at one of the first ones (perhaps the very first), they found yet another frozen dead guy, a reveller who'd had a bit too much to drink and fell over in a snowbank.




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