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AndyE
100610.  Sun Oct 08, 2006 8:50 am Reply with quote

I'm glad there's at least one other person who has such strange ideas for leisure pursuits!

The definition of "road" is indeed a tricky one; I considered a "road" to be something that forms part of the public highway (so farm tracks, Forestry Commission tracks and the like are not included). Which roads are such isn't always apparent from the Landranger maps, and my best estimate was to consider only roads which appear on Autoroute.

Wordlover's point on Dartmoor was about a mile south of mine, and both are certainly in about the right place. A road which runs NE out of Marytavy (east of the A386) and comes to a dead end seems to be the closest to Wordlover's point. I'm making it around 3.8 miles, but it's entirely possible that the road in question is not in fact a public highway.

But OK, it's time to admit a schoolboy error. The suggested point in Kielder Forest does indeed seem to be rather more than 4 miles from a road and may well be the furthest point from a road anywhere in England. Why did I reject points in this area before? Oh dear, I construed the Scottish border as a road. Don't tell Suze ...

That Scottish point, in between Ladhar Beinn and Sgurr na Ciche, is indeed about 11 miles from the roads suggested. But there is a road which runs west from the B8005 at Achnacarry along the north shore of Loch Arkaig. It's not entirely clear to me whether or not that is a public highway - but if it is, its western dead end is a "mere" 6.65 miles from the point nominated.

 
simonp
100788.  Sun Oct 08, 2006 12:24 pm Reply with quote

I don't know about the road in Marytavy, I shall look it up when i can dig out a sutiable map. (we have many, many maps of Dartmoor) However I'd just like to say that Dartmoor was lovely and quiet this morning now most of the tourists have gone home!!!

 
Lumpo31
101446.  Tue Oct 10, 2006 1:43 am Reply with quote

In Australia, devon is the name of a type of luncheon meat very popular among school children (especially during the 1970s), particularly in a sandwich. The devon would almost invariably have a "smiley face" applied to it in tomato sauce (ketchup) before the top piece of bread was put on.

I can't stand devon. I asked Hubby to describe what it tastes like, and he was unable to. And he likes it. The worst sort of luncheon meat imaginable. Or unimaginable.

Incidentally, speaking of things given British names, manchester is what Australians call bed linen. I imagine that must come from the olden days of Mancunian cotton mills etc?

Lisa

 
Tas
101499.  Tue Oct 10, 2006 4:55 am Reply with quote

Quote:
I can't stand devon. I asked Hubby to describe what it tastes like, and he was unable to. And he likes it. The worst sort of luncheon meat imaginable. Or unimaginable.


Sounds like Spam, to me...

:-)

Tas

 
Lumpo31
101515.  Tue Oct 10, 2006 5:28 am Reply with quote

Tas wrote:
Quote:
I can't stand devon. I asked Hubby to describe what it tastes like, and he was unable to. And he likes it. The worst sort of luncheon meat imaginable. Or unimaginable.


Sounds like Spam, to me...

:-)

Tas


Oh no...far worse than Spam...

Lisa

 
WordLover
101538.  Tue Oct 10, 2006 5:47 am Reply with quote

AndyE wrote:
That Scottish point, in between Ladhar Beinn and Sgurr na Ciche, is indeed about 11 miles from the roads suggested. But there is a road which runs west from the B8005 at Achnacarry along the north shore of Loch Arkaig. It's not entirely clear to me whether or not that is a public highway - but if it is, its western dead end is a "mere" 6.65 miles from the point nominated.
Rats. Clearly I didn't look at the Landranger map closely enough. I spent some of last night with the OS web site Get-a-map and offer the following point in the Grampians instead:

NN891833, 15.74 km (9.78 miles) from
NN852976, Achlean
NN895677, Tomnaguie
NO061897, Linn of Dee Cottage

 
Tas
101543.  Tue Oct 10, 2006 5:51 am Reply with quote

Quote:
Oh no...far worse than Spam...


Not possible....

(I got sent a lovely Spam advert the other day. Some wag had put on : "It's made from people. Spam is made from people!" I don't know how to put images onto here.)

:-)

Tas

 
Southpaw
101567.  Tue Oct 10, 2006 7:12 am Reply with quote

You have to upload them to a webspace some where, then link to them with img tags in []'s.

 
Lumpo31
101573.  Tue Oct 10, 2006 7:22 am Reply with quote

Tas wrote:
Quote:
Oh no...far worse than Spam...


Not possible....

(I got sent a lovely Spam advert the other day. Some wag had put on : "It's made from people. Spam is made from people!" I don't know how to put images onto here.)

:-)

Tas


Oh look, devon even has it's own Wiki page. Maybe now you'll believe me!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devon_(sausage)

Except that it tastes nothing like Bologna sausage - the contributor was far too kind to devon and obviously has an axe to grind about Bologna sausage!

I've seen that Spam thingy too. Most excellent. Because it's true.

Lisa

 
Jenny
101781.  Tue Oct 10, 2006 2:31 pm Reply with quote

Bologna sausage is truly disgusting.

 
BondiTram
101961.  Wed Oct 11, 2006 5:35 am Reply with quote

Not as bad as Andouillette I'll wager, but if I'm hungry I'll eat whatever's put before me.

 
Lumpo31
102123.  Wed Oct 11, 2006 11:25 am Reply with quote

BondiTram wrote:
Not as bad as Andouillette I'll wager, but if I'm hungry I'll eat whatever's put before me.


I was going to say that nothing comes close to devon, but having read the Wiki entry about Andouillette http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andouillette I stand corrected. I bet nothing comes close to that one. BondiTram, you are indeed brave to even go near that!

Lisa

 
BondiTram
102362.  Thu Oct 12, 2006 6:32 am Reply with quote

[quote="Lumpo31 BondiTram, you are indeed brave to even go near that!

Lisa[/quote]

When needs must. What about wichetty grubs then?

 
Lumpo31
102370.  Thu Oct 12, 2006 6:50 am Reply with quote

BondiTram wrote:

When needs must. What about wichetty grubs then?


What about them?

I come from Wollongong, not Woop Woop!

(that of course reminds me of an old NSW State Rail ad which went something along the lines of "Wagga Wagga, Woy Woy, Wee Waa, Woop Woop - the idea being that these, with the exception of Woop Woop, were all places you could travel to by NSW State Rail trains).

Lisa

 
simonp
198385.  Wed Aug 08, 2007 2:53 am Reply with quote

WordLover wrote:

AndyE wrote:
it would appear that the allegation is in fact correct - the only place in England where one can be four miles from a road is on Dartmoor.
Not so, if I haven't overlooked any salient roads. One question to settle is exactly what is meant by "road". It would appear that AndyE is not counting unclassified roads that are uncoloured on OS Landranger maps: his point near Ullapool, 575338N 45410W (NH279930, if I have calculated correctly) is fairly near various such roads, e.g. one that runs by NH284922. I will not count such roads, but I will count roads that are coloured on OS Landranger maps, even if they are unnumbered or unclassified.

AndyE wrote:
There are a couple of near approaches in the Kielder Forest of Northumberland, but the place to be would seem to be around 503933 N 35932 W.
SX592863, if I have calculated correctly. That's quite near my best point in Dartmoor:
SX594842, 7.19 km (4.47 miles) from:
SX523853, Dartmoor Inn, Lydford
SX648795, Ringhill, nr. Postbridge
SX662866, Batworthy

My best point in mainland England, though, is not in Dartmoor but in the Kielder Forest (thank you, AndyE, for suggesting a search there).



Ok, so Yes Tor may not be the farthest point from a road in England but, it is one of only two mountains in Devon, the other being High Willhays. I went to both yesterday, i was Devon's highest person!

 

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