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bobwilson
712980.  Wed May 26, 2010 6:34 pm Reply with quote

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Nazi propaganda engineers methodically used infrasound to stir up the hostilities of crowds who were gathered to hear their madman.The results are historical nightmares.

Did they?

 
busk31
712982.  Wed May 26, 2010 6:42 pm Reply with quote

I have no proof of this, but lots of people mentions this when asked about Infrasound.Then again Joseph Goebbels, the Nazi propaganda minister once said:

“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it.”

...Or did he? :)

 
bobwilson
712984.  Wed May 26, 2010 6:45 pm Reply with quote

I think that means the answer to my question is "no" then! ;)

 
busk31
712986.  Wed May 26, 2010 6:48 pm Reply with quote

I assume its no, but I wouldent put it past them. The effects are for real though.

 
busk31
712991.  Wed May 26, 2010 6:57 pm Reply with quote

Lots of talks about this: Feraliminal Lycanthropizer
Most be a myth..


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bobwilson
712993.  Wed May 26, 2010 6:57 pm Reply with quote

Well, since the effects you cite include "fear and disorientation" I can't really see how it would have been useful to the Nazis - and more importantly, if the effect could induce a "useful hatred" then I suspect that it would have been employed more recently. (Although I'm sure that the only reason that the UK continues to experiment on eradicated diseases at Porton Down IS just in case some nefarious person decides to use smallpox as a weapon).

 
soup
712994.  Wed May 26, 2010 7:01 pm Reply with quote

Didn't Mythbusters (TRSSS) debunk Infrasound's ability to destroy anything? They also debunked the "Brown note"[1] which I assume you were alluding to in your Clemens soiling his suit section.

It seems strange to me that a weapon was designed and tested about a century ago and yet is not used today (there are some riot control systems that use infrasound (or is it ultrasound) but they engender a 'feeling' of heat (that subjects feel they must move from) rather than destroy anything).

[1] When they were testing the "Brown note" out of a cast and crew and technicians of about 30 only four people complained of any feelings at all and one was feeling severe nausea


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busk31
712995.  Wed May 26, 2010 7:02 pm Reply with quote

I agree, it dosent sound like a good idea to use it on your followers, its more of an weapon if anything.

 
bobwilson
712996.  Wed May 26, 2010 7:04 pm Reply with quote

It's more likely to be a myth than anything. If it was useful as a weapon - it'd be used as a weapon.

 
busk31
712997.  Wed May 26, 2010 7:06 pm Reply with quote

Yes mythbusters and others have not been able to produce the infamous "Brown note"-A concert was held in the UK, actually 4 concerts, where 2 had the added effect of Infrasound. 22% of the people reported effects, not impressive stats at all.

 
busk31
713000.  Wed May 26, 2010 7:12 pm Reply with quote

Thats true if the army can use it, they will. Its a "New" Science and nothing has really been proven yet. It has certainly been tested lots, but why has it not been developed?

 
suze
713002.  Wed May 26, 2010 7:20 pm Reply with quote

As a bit of cross referencing, discussions beginning at post 328593 and at post 399456 also touch on this topic.

 
busk31
713003.  Wed May 26, 2010 7:23 pm Reply with quote

Ahh thx Suze, I was searching for Infrasound and only found a bit about elephants.

 
busk31
713004.  Wed May 26, 2010 7:26 pm Reply with quote

I have mentioned the inventer Woody Norris a few times, he did an interesting TED talk on acustics...and then sold his new patents to the military :/

 
RLDavies
713129.  Thu May 27, 2010 7:25 am Reply with quote

We might as well bring ultrasound into the conversation.

The "Mosquito" device emits a nasty whine at a very high pitch that's inaudible to people older than about 20. To those who can hear it, it's an intolerably annoying sound. It's therefore been used to prevent children and teenagers hanging around shop doorways, street corners, etc.

Which is a sort of sound-based weapon, in a way.

I recently found a YouTube "hearing test" that plays (or claims to play) the Mosquito noise. Although I couldn't actually hear anything when it played, I did experience a very unpleasant sensation of pressure in the head.

 

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